I don’t know why but I get more hits to my site from searches for “carding” information than any other topic. Recently I received a comment from Iceman, administrator on the Cardersmarket (CM) web board. This was an interesting turn of events because CM is an online forum devoted to the dissemination of information on credit card theft, fraud, and all the implements of how to do it.
According to Iceman CM is nothing more than a venue for the information, but not a place where actual credit card fraud happens. This is analgoud to 2600 for phone phreaking information or what Napster was for MP3 sharing. I can almost bring myself to agree with him except for the fact that people are actively swapping and selling stolen credit card numbers. CM is definitely no Boa Factory but still it’s up there with the others like ccpowerforums, darkmarket, darkpay, thegrifters, theftservices, and the old scandinaviancarding.
One of the old participants on CM was a guy nicknamed El Mariachi. He worked with law enforcement on a few things and burned bridges moving on to create his own forum TheGrufters. According to Iceman from CM, TheGrifters VIP section is just like the CM forum. There is drama between the two as they trash talk each other on their respective forums, but it’s interesting to hear them go at it. I don’t even care who is right because I’m learning more and more about the subculture just by listening along.
I downloaded the podcasts from TheGrifters and will check them out … in the morning when I’m not so sleepy.
July 29, 2006 at 11:40 pm
I think its important to note that Iceman is a foolish wannabe hacker who goes around and hacks sites for fun and pleasure. Its a well known fact that he has hacked and admitted hacking a number of unpatched carder boards in which he then puts them on display.
The funny parts of his banter are that cardersmarket is misnamed. The board was put up as
“CARDERS MARKET” meaning a marketplace for carders. His push was in the novelty area and it seemed as if he was in cahoots with various Law Enforcement agencies in Ohio, Florida and places in between. The way he tells it, he was not hosted on a “HOME” box. Yet, even today, he has his box set up using IIS which is configured as a home server admin would configure it.
Law Enforcement claimed during the time they ran Shadowcrew, that Shadowcrew itself couldn’t be an LE site or one controlled or operated by LE. They vehemently denied that they were hosted on U.S Government servers, even while the phone giant AT&T protected them from being ddosed into oblivion, by giving them an OC48 to have and hold as long as they were willing to pay for it.
The thought was that Cumbajohnny and the rest of the admins on Shadowcrew must somehow be rich enough to pay 30k a month for unlimited pipes as a OC48 would give them, and of course AT&T protected their major crime empire by allowing them to pay for and host such material on the web. Of course the clueless n00bies who were on the board believed so strongly in the words of those admins, that they all went down the tubes when it was revealed that it was in fact an LE sting operated by the Secret Service.
Of course not to be outdone when they closed their web site down, LE in fact had many more operations planned, and were executing them even as Shadowcrew went down.
That is known history.
Most of that of course came out prior to the actual removal of SC by El Mariachi and Decep and a few others in the TG crew.
LE of course knows this, and has forever been sullied by the fact that El and his crew knew what was going on during that operation, and was working on trying to get people to wake up and get out before their peril came about.
Since then, El and some people in his inner circle have worked hard on trying to close down as many LE looking sites as possible.
The last such site was CM or cardermsmarket. The so called admin of the site, Iceman, has a delusional theory on what makes a person LE and what makes him a criminal. He posts in private about his theory saying that to him a criminal is a guy who will get involved in a crime with him. That is his basis for making sure LE is not working him. This of course is pure fantasy, and he gives it out to many people. Saying such things as LE cant be involved in crime, therefore they wont be LE at the door is the same bullshit as Imperium quoted on IAACA when he was running that site.
His declaration that he himself was not an LE agent nor working for the police was quickly outted by his own words back in those days when confronted with his threatening El’s family in public, and then while El had filed a federal complaint against him for such actions, he quickly knew what the complaint had said within 3 days of said complaint being filed.
Within 30 days of that episode Imperium was out.
What is funny is how these so called carders or pretend criminals try and deflect suspicions about their operations instead of doing what most real criminals would do when faced with mounting bad press and exposure. Instead of going underground, they stay out and try and keep people involved in their acts, and keep them focused on the operations by telling everyone else that somehow El or the people that are around him are all wrong about them.
Real criminals on the other hand would run from exposure. And, as in the case of CM, the site has been mentioned numerous times in various indictments of people in LE Operations, and other such busts of real carders who frequent such sites.
It is not for anyone to say, but the casual person would effect that by running such sites in the public eye and watching how they are allowed to stay up despite complaints to their U.S. based hosting companies, makes one wonder whether they should be up at all. Because in fact by staying up, they are in fact “HELPING” the police to catch criminals, which is the truth behind the boards themselves.
LE agents and the informants that work for them, often will work hard to make as many cases as they can for LE, all in the nature of working off those charges that they have been caught for. LE on the other hand is clearly able to allow their informants and various assets to run boards for them, as LE then gets to have a hand in, but not a known hand in, running criminal enterprises. The informant or asset is running it with LE’s blessing, which is why they are able to stay up and running, because LE calls the hosting companies that are favorable to them and will host said sites for whatever reason LE wants, and will not take them down no matter how many complaints are issued against it.
The same was said of Shadowcrew, in its almost 3 year history hundreds of thousands of complaints were lodged against the site. However LE always responded by saying “quit telling us about it as we are aware of it.”
This is how a board today gets noticed. In the CM issue, CM’s host was bombarded with a series of complaints lodged against it by the Los Pepes organization. Which is an organization dedicated to trying to clean up the bad areas of so called cyberspace. They are much more effective when they are able to go after a site hosted on U.S. soil such as CM was and still is.
You see, on U.S. soil, you cant host a site such as that without getting LE all up in your face. The scene today could be easily likened to supporting terrorism by providing fake id’s and novelties to terrorists. So, LE, in their Homeland Security role is very deep into the carding boards due to the fact that novelty makers can and often do make novelties for anyone who asks. Some claim they wont make one for arab looking people, but truth is, its money in the bank, and most of these guys are in the scene either for the money or for LE, there isn’t much other reason to expose oneself to criminal prosecution by running a board especially on U.S soil.
The CM board lasted for months after the complaints stopped, and only after the old complaints were posted in a public forum did CM respond by changing hosts and then blaming their temp downage on El when in fact they were all fine and good and still posting from their hosting IP. They then went the same exact place as IAACA did when they were being chased around by the same people. Optical Jungle, which is an LE ISP friendly place to go, especially since their main office is in New Jersey, the site where many carder prosecutions have taken place, including Shadowcrew.
CM of course will deny everything, they will say they dont vend, when everyone knows they do, why else have a board? Its to nab people or make money off of. But, when you are on U.S. soil, one already knows that your board, and the people running it are all monitored to death. Only when those boards show up in the later indicmemts of people caught up in them will they be shown to be what they truly are, which is LE sponsored. One only needs to ask why LE can bust people on the boards but not close the boards in question down.
They don’t want to close them down because it provides a steady stream of information about how carders operate, and a steady stream of busts of everyone that is enticed into these boards and or into that type of life.
What is interesting to note is that Iceman would even come out and claim he is some straight rock dude who just wants to share information. This of course is the old fallacy that its all about the information. The only place on the web right now that is information only is TG. The rest of the boards like DM, IAACA/TTS SCANDI and CM and the others are all about VENDING PRODUCTS. There is no other reason for them to be there. No one would even show up if it was just about security information, because no one cares enough about that to wake up and spend all day on a board for some information that could be gained by social engineering it or by going out and just doing operations.
Everyone knows that the minute an operation or hole is posted on one of these boards, its closed within days, meaning the information is useless to a real carder or criminal. Therefore the board is not about that, rather its about vending and or busting people, and or being able to IDENTIFY criminals operating in cyberspace.
That is the only reason a board is around like CM.
The rest of his bullshit is just that, bullshit. The whole my board is named wrong and other parts naming El as Mr Thomas, which is an LE tactic designed to put more heat on his name, are all just bullshit piled upon bullshit.
LE cannot have their operations exposed, they shy away from it, yet, they are paid to run these operations, and run them they will, until people are broke, busted or dead. Because that is their job.
As for information, TG has sought to give out as much information as it can on these operations, because in fact these boards are allowed to cause millions in damages to merchants and others all in the nature of busting 5 or 10 guys during the whole of that operation before they close down and go elsewhere and open up newer boards.
So, TG started giving people examples of these operations and the hope was that people would wake up and smell the coffee. But, only the few who are eventually busted will know they were in fact set up by guys like Iceman, because that is his current job profile and his current mission in life. Once he is done, others will step up to the plate to fill the void left when he is over and moved on. That is how LE operates. They vouch for one another until they get burned, then they claim the vouch was all wrong, but those guys who vouch them in never get taken out for bringing LE in the door. They cant, because they run the fucking place, and no one is going to make them leave.
July 30, 2006 at 12:42 am
Thanks for the lengthy info El. We need more conversations like this.
August 6, 2006 at 5:57 am
I hadn’t visited this site since the last time I posted and no matter how much I learn about the depth of El’s ignorance, I was still shocked to see him write such ignorant drivel here. David you should be ashamed of yourself!
Let me get right to the point. El Mariachi has a massive jealousy complex. He was a loudmouth punk on my forum and after warnings I banned him, and he couldn’t take this rejection, this blow to his massively supersized ego. El wants to believe he is in the middle of everything, an important wise godfather who is guiding and helping. Just listen to him! But what a pompous know-nothing bore. Think about the mentality it would take to snitch out your fall partners, come out of prison and start trying to write a book and do audio interviews. Is he even capable of shame? Notice how he often posts using another name, and refers to himself in third person. Above as “Earl” he talks himself up over and over. No shame at all..
Upon being banned he immediately launched a crusade against CM, taking every opportunity to slander us and spread his fear and doubt.
Everything he is saying is based on lies or ignorance.
The bottom line I would like the public to see is that El is a federal snitch with issues, and that all so-called evidence against me is fabrication. I despise and distrust most law enforcement and I am sorry it has to be that way, but I know their corruption and the blindness of “justice” and sorry El, I just don’t swing that way! My ethics are more complicated and that is a separate discussion, but there is a huge difference between El and I. He works with feds, I don’t.
I hope you will please indulge me to destroy his idiotic slander point by point.
1. El claims that CM was hosted in someone’s home. First off, how is this even possible? If we are “criminal” as he says then we would be busted instantly. If we are “feds” like he says then we wouldn’t even be allowed to use a residence (and feds have budget, and what, common sense?). He wants to have it both ways. But I will let YOU the reader decide for yourself. First let’s look at El’s so-called proof. While El was trying to build a case against cardersmarket he scanned our web host and posted the output to his forum. There were no vulnerabilities of course, but he then claimed that the IP address was hosted in someone’s house. Now I’m going to embarrass El a little here and show you his actual screenshots.
I don’t like drawing attention to hosting history because it makes it that much easier for the feds (El’s apparent masters), but the IP address as you can see was 207.36.233.69. Now you tell me, how someone comes to the conclusion that this IP address is in someone’s house?? It is a dedicated server in a datacenter! You can see in his own screenshots that the contact is ValueWeb Hosting. I wonder which part of the word “hosting” he didn’t understand? A simple phone call to the ISP would have confirmed this. Worse, he admits to a campaign of flooding our ISP with complaints, he is pure snitch through and through.
2. El claims that CM is running IIS and that this is poor security! When he first made this claim I nearly pissed myself laughing at how inept he was. First off CM has never run IIS. Even so, there is nothing wrong with IIS as a webserver. Many high security sites are running IIS. Here are some examples. Remember according to El Mariachi IIS is easy to hack, so I guess that means he is really El Supahacka, because look what he can hack!
http://payments.chase.com, Microsoft-IIS/6.0
http://www.nationalcity.com, Microsoft-IIS/6.0
http://www.bankone.com, Microsoft-IIS/6.0
http://www.e-gold.com, Microsoft-IIS/5.0
http://www.westernunion.com, Microsoft-IIS/5.0
http://www.usbank.com, Microsoft-IIS/5.0
http://www.bbt.com, Microsoft-IIS/5.0
http://www.compassweb.com, Microsoft-IIS/5.0
http://www.microsoft.com, Microsoft-IIS/6.0 – heh
or how about: ask.com, doubleclick.com, expedia.com, lycos.com, match.com, monster.com, myspace.com, walmart.com, tigerdirect.com, mcafee.com, verizon.net, Barnes and Noble, Buy.com, Dell.com, Gateway.com, 1-800-FLOWERS.com
eek!! The internet had better lock it’s doors because El Mariachi says IIS is bad security. I guess poor e-gold and western union, carder “holy grail” type sites, must have long since been hacked by the great and wise El Mariachi. No? Maybe chase and bankone?
NO. In fact there has not been a single remote hole in IIS 6.0 since it’s release over 3 years ago. Stop and think about that. Then think about the wisdom of this no-nothing wannabe.
Now here is the punchline just look at the screenshot this jackass took, clearly showing we are running Apache not IIS!! This is his own screenshot from the same session.
We have always run Apache and run Apache today. Realize too that we are an httpS ONLY site, and if you reach http somewhere, you are not at our site, period. People like El cannot understand how this is possible. Sucks to be them.
3. El says (in third person) “El and some people in his inner circle have worked hard on trying to close down as many LE looking sites as possible. The last such site was CM or cardermsmarket.”
This is yet another in a long string of his admissions that he snitched us out to the feds, to the ISP, to anyone and everyone who would listen all just based on his raging jealousy. Just read what he is saying. In other posts on his now dead forum he was even more direct in his admission.
4. El uses the fact that we kept our board up through his assaults as a “proof” that we are protected by feds. I guess the idiot never looked at phishing sites hosted on yahoo.com huh?? Which stay up for weeks despite floods of complaint that make El’s snitchfest against CM seem like drops of water in the ocean. Some ISPs are just more responsive to snitching than others apparently! And those are illegal!
What El failed to comprehend is that someone out here knows more than he does. That someone out here is smart enough to set up servers that the network admin would be pulling their hair out over and not be able to find on their own network. El doesn’t have even the slightest clue about clever networking, he didn’t even understand the difference between hosting a site and having a dedicated server. Oh and I’ll get to that
And one other thing, His forum was hosted in the USA as well, and yet he stayed up, is he trying to tell us something?
In case anyone is curious CardersMarket was NOT taken down from valueweb because of the content of our forum, despite El’s snitching. Our host was taken down because it was a network trick! Stupid insane jealous turd El snitched us out of a really sweet deal we had set up. A ghost IP that was not connected to any customer account. El you dumb cunt, you ratted out a totally legit board, not LE! That pissed me off. But as you see we came back stronger. Now you can rat out our IP’s and we can spring back up in another place in MINUTES. We have near continuous backup and won’t lose a single post. And soon we will have hosting in countries you can’t even visit. Just because you don’t understand how to do something doesn’t mean it can’t be done. To you, SIMPLE EL, everything is magic and magic=feds! Well newsflash, there is more out there you don’t know about! Next time you don’t understand something try ASKING or LEARNING. You have a lot of reading to do before you can sit at this table.
5. We were *NEVER* hosted at Optical Jungle. This is outright fabrication on the part of El. Look at all of our IP’s we have ever had, none of them are in that network. El literally did this.. Follow along. He took our hostname “cardersmarket.com” and resolved that to an IP address. Any intelligent person stops here. They know that point of fact THIS IP is the ip the web browser connects to and the site is at. But then El took that IP and got the reverse DNS. Reverse DNS does not always match the forward dns, and in most large hosting datacenters they will be badly out of sync. In our case the reverse dns was some prior customer, who we had ZERO knowledge of it was merely someone who the ISP gave that IP to before. El took this reverse dns name which had nothing to do with us, and he then resolved THAT HOSTNAME to another ip. This was the IP at optical jungle. *NOT* *OUR* *IP*
Also while we are on this, how SIMPLE does your mind have to be to think that just because shadowcrew was hosted in New Jersey that every other site in New Jersey is a fed sting? Seriously is this brain damage? A tumor? (again, CM never in NJ anyway!)
It was pure retard logic, just making things up and really showing off internet handicap.
It is very literally like me saying this:
“thegrifters.net” is at 64.92.167.250 (it was until very recently)
“theangryfag.net” is at 64.92.167.250 (it still is)
Therefore, thegrifters is run by angry bottoms! It is twisted “creative network interpretation” the likes of which I have never seen!
6. More an opinion than point of fact, but El claims the only purpose for a carding forum is busting people, and that any holes shown are closed instantly. Both counts are false, but if exposing the holes causes banks and companies to tighten their security and close holes and El is supposedly some champion of justice then isn’t that what he wants?
El is not genuine. He is a fake, low life poseur with delusions of grandeur. His entire campaign against CardersMarket is based on his jealous hatred, and his strongest attack is to slander us without evidence. You can see the mountain of factual errors and weak attempts to mix in real events like shadowcrew and iaaca, with his fantasy that CM is in any way related. It is weak writing, poor journalism, and downright shitty thinking. El get over your jealousy and wake up! You spend all this time with your nose in our business and the feds must love you for it! Quit doing their bidding!
August 6, 2006 at 6:09 am
fwiw, this blog converted several of my smilies into question marks.
August 11, 2006 at 2:19 am
CardersMarket is now hosted in IRAN. Registration is reopened.
August 15, 2006 at 12:28 pm
ROTFLMAO@Iceman. What a n00bish clown you are Iceman. But, now that you moved, kinda even things up as far as venue now doesn’t it?
You know, I would reply in one of my long winded bloated posts about how you were at all those IP sites, and how your stupid wannabe ass even came over to TG from Optical Jungle, but, it would be a waste of more time on your small time ass.
The one thing I do take from your post is this:
You act like Cumbajohnny. Remember on SC when he was so blatent with his post about how secure SC was and his final rant
“Were hackers we cant be muscled”
That was what gave away his little sinking boat to me fed. Of course I knew long before what was up, but, that one thing stood out from your long post, and that was the “we are to big to be taken out attitude.” The “we will be in countries you cant even go to” reeks of LE posturing.. That is all bullshit Ice. You are just a rat/fed doing your job while we were busting your balls over how sloppy you were at it.
I don’t really need to fuck up this guys blog with your bullshit except to say live well while you can, we are going to see you one day on the same front page as SC ended up at. And of course we were right then about them and we will be right when you finally get exposed. Budgets in LE only last so long and your shit eating novelty sting board wont last that long. You need fresh meat to grist for the bust mill and this scene is about as dead as it can be.
You try to hard to be SC, your whole board reeks of SC cronyism and attitudes. That is what gives you LE people away everytime. Your we cant be muscled approach. That comes from ex military and ex LE and security guys who have that get tough talk attitude.
I tell ya what Iceman, if you are so bold, come on over and we can talk about it in person, but since your a chicken shit wannabe piece of gutter trash that sticks on the bottom of my shoes you will weasel out of that offer every day of the week.
Come on big man, come on over and lets talk man to man you slimbag piece of shit.
Anyway, I will be waitin on you punk bitch. I know however you will never come.
Just like most in your class, you are to busy wearing wires on people, busting them down for whatever activities they are doing and walking tall all at the same time.
Just like the piece of shit you are.
Anyway the coffee offer stands. Just let me know when you are man enough to step out of those LE shadows and put down your badge long enough to come over and discuss it.
As for ranting on ever more about what you do, we have done enough to you. We ran you out of the United States which was just what we wanted lol…
Earl
August 17, 2006 at 1:32 pm
El is just angry because he has been called out and shown to be wrong about almost everything that has come out of his punk mouth. It is ok to be embarrassed El that is the appropriate reaction for someone who was so mistaken in every way. Funny you were too embarrassed to respond about IIS. And to say we are on even venue haha you are in the USA and we are in IRAN, and you say that is even?? No, you are looking like a real assclown right now. United States Federal Assclown!
You whined like a bitch in your podcast saying no one was listening to you, but that is because you have been talking out your ass. You are the ONLY person on this earth saying negative shit about me making those false accusations, and it burns you up that you have zero evidence, just wild speculation and a litany of made up ideas. Like Optical Jungle haha you stupid fuck we were *NEVER* at Optical Jungle *EVER* didn’t you even look at the IP’s?? Didn’t you read my last comment here in this now stretched blog? The entire internet community, anyone who knows anything about internet can look at the evidence and the IP’s in your screenshots and knows for a fact that you are a moron and that I am telling the truth. Ask ANY knowledgeable professional or phone up the ISP themselves and you will be schooled to your ignorance. You are like those religious nuts who keep thumping their religious book of choice. Except you are an amateur. You are a nut job at best. I prove each and every thing you say about me is a lie or pathological error, and you just spring up with new lies. You are an empty fake.
There has also been an entire forum section dedicated to exposing this pathetic fraud David Thomas for the charlatan he is. You can read more about the arguments you are seeing spill to this blog, in our section entitled “El Mariachi Federal Snitch” in the Wasteland section.
This is too fun. El Snitchy who hosts his crime board in the USA still to this day (thegrifters.net), claims that we are feds because we were hosted in the usa. nice logic huh? So now we are hosted in IRAN. What do you have to say now, El Snitchy? You can take your USA hosted snitch board and shove it up your rat mongrel ass, El.
I will just beat you down with the truth, and let you keep digging yourself deeper, making yourself look dumb AND dumber 🙂 Because you have been wrong from day #1 you simple fool. And you are too far up yourself to see your mistake for what it is.
You are a rat punk, and therefore the lowest and most hated person in our scene.
in other related but unrelated:
Yesterday the following carding forums were merged into the *new* CardersMarket, served up fresh, in Iran:
CardersMarket
DarkMarket
TalkCash
ScandinavianCarding
TheVouched
Membership is at around 6000 users.
thanks again afterlife for allowing the extended debate here in the reply comments 🙂
August 17, 2006 at 6:42 pm
6000 uses in your mind. You hacked all the boards and stole their databases. Then you merged them all with your shit forum and sent everyone an email to come to CM only.
I tell ya what, you can be all you can be. But, it will only last for so long. Federal budgets only go so deep, and the scene as you call it is as dead as a door stop. You can see it all over, there are about 20 guys total in scene, 50 percent of them are LE/Security and 25 percent are rippers, and the last part are the guys looking to sell this or that to those that are left. There is maybe 5 guys total doing business on the boards and that is about it.
Your claim of 6k members is all combined guys from databases that you stole and members long ago busted and gone. You want to dream of the old days when they claimed 4k worth of members, when everyone knew that was not even close. That was all people re-registering for rips, bans, and various scams. There was only about 28 guys worth arresting on SC when it went down, and each of them knew 5 or 10 guys they did business with, and so the total stealth bust was around 100-300 guys or there abouts.
Your logic is plain to see. I have a snap shot of CM using IIS. Granted many sys admins in the straight world use it, but, that doesn’t make it secure, and every hacker worth his salt knows IIS was was and still is pretty weak.
No matter, there is always people who trust Microblows products, and those laugh and who know better. I find it funny that some elite wannabe hacker such as yourself uses IIS when he could use a Linux distro for his site.
Anyway to respond to you further is pointless. You and I have had all the go around behind the computer screen we can. You come on up when you want, the offer still stands. But, I know your to chicken shit to come over because you know you will be met with some resistence that will put your punk ass to shame. But, its all comspeek, and until you want to face someone your just a child on a computer acting like a child, and, so am I by talking to you and egging you on. You need me to keep your site alive, its why you have dedicated a place for me there. You and your punk LE people have always needed me, you need me to keep others focused on me to cover your own misdeeds. That was the way it was on SC and ever after.
People that are true to the scene know better, and as for hate, well, everyone has hate at some time or another, the only hate I get is from LE and their stooges. Real scene players know I been trying to get people out for years. I have 25 gigs or more of logs and backups to prove it Iceboy.
While you and your LE players are always trying to keep people in and talking, we are trying to drive everyone out and underground as deep as they will go.
Its nice you found someone who understands farsi to open your site in Iran, but, we knew that you would, because we drove you to that extreme. There are more than a few agents in LE who know the language and so you must have finally found them lol.
Its good you host there because now, all you have are IP’s and emails to nab. Trouble is, there is hardly anyone left in the scene to go to your board. There is no 6k in members, its just 6k of names long ago forgotten and combined from all the boards you hacked.
Anyway, keep up the good work Officer Ice, and make sure you do all you can to protect the average citizen.
As for what will happen to you and your board? Well, don’t forget, Iran has a small pipeline and is easily overwhelmed. If it was wanted, you could be swatted away like the shit you are, and you know it. But, truth is Iceboy, its over, I only know it and you don’t. Guys like you want to keep it flowing forever, and trouble is, it just wont work, eventually guys get busted and they know they got busted because of a board, eventually word spreads and you get burned. That fate happened to SC and it will befall you, no need then for any of us to remove you by force, which could be done on a whim, you just aren’t worth the money nor the botnet to remove.
As for anything else Ice, well, I wish you luck, I know I have been harsh on you, and maybe some of it was wrongly directed, however, it was done not in malice, but in the sincere hope that others will stay safe. If by any chance I was wrong about you or your board, well, I am truly sorry, but, shit happens. I know you have a hard job, and that job is made even tougher by accusations and all manner of anarchy, which goes with running a board. You have enough on your plate without the likes of me clouding your issues. While I would like to see you dangle, I think I will just move on and let you do what you got to do, my input in this scene is over anyway, you know it and I know it.
I could make a huge amount of trouble come your way, I could hunt you down, I could put a 25k bounty on your head dead or alive so to speak lol, but, I think it would just be more grist for your drama section. People would turn out to see who would win. I know who would win, but, does it really matter?
That is the question, are you worth it? Are you worth all manner of shit to take out?
Is this scene even worth it?
My answer to that is no. Its not.
The last weeks have been very interesting for me on other fronts, and, truly, you just don’t interest me anymore, nor does this scene. Your board, or any board for that matter is just not the same as it was in past years. The fight back then was harsh, and it was won over by our side, you guys had to take a fall, it was in the cards, and just like you are now, you will eventually take the same fall, maybe not publically, but, just the same, you will fall. So, why should I give a fuck about you, your small dicked board or any board for that matter?
You see what I am saying? When you step outside in the real world, small timed people like yourself, and boards like yours, truly make no sense.
You find yourself walking around and telling people about these boards and they look at you with a blank stare and say whats that? CM what? SC who? TTS is what?
Its like no one gives a fuck.
After awhile, its hard to even maintain a desire to talk to people who are so fucked up such as yourself. Guys who keep egging people to get involved and card and steal and rape and pillage. Its like some nasty piece of shit you step in on the way to work. You smell it all day and have to eventually clean it off your shoe with a stick and some water and soap. Sometimes the smell doesn’t go away, and everytime you put that shoe on, you smell that shit and wonder where in hell or when in hell will it ever go away.
That is where I am with you and the rest of this small dicked scene. Its like we all want to prove something, and its like we talk to each other this way because we think there is some audience listening to us, and thinking hrmm, maybe he is right or maybe he is wrong. You get guys that you NEED, that have a hate on for say me, then they come on and buddy up to you, and that makes you feel important.
Then, you keep it going, because after awhile the only thing you have is that feeling and if you dont get your fix of it, you lose it.
I know what that is like, I been down that road. Truly though its just a lonely road to travel. If you are a real bad guy, then your road eventually is jail, and when you get there, your punk ass will learn what life in the bad guy lane is all about. Right now, if your a bad guy, you got guys all up in ya, and you feel strong, they give you strength, but, when your busted, they wont even remember your name.
Look at JD, all alone in his misery. His family and I are the only ones that care about him. But, that is the way the life is, he knew that going in so, it is probably no surprise to him now.
If your a bad guy, well, that fate awaits you too. Bad guys always fuck up, always make mistakes, and always get busted. Its just the way it is, you know it and I know it.
If your LE or a bad guy helping LE like Crisis did, or any of the other 28 or so people that were admins on SC, well, your out right now trying to get a 51k or some type of reduction. Your “UNDER THE GUN” so to speak, and guys like me fuck that all up for you by outting you as what you might just be. So, the effort, just like it was on SC, is to keep them focused on me, keep them focused on someone else while they make those cases.
You make wild claims that I am a rat, yet, you, like all your other people never say who got took out because of me. You cant, because no one did. That in and of itself means no rat, even if I worked for LE or was LE.
No case, no rat lol.
But, I digress.
Look out Mr Ice, you do what you got to do. I am, and have been finding other things in my life to do. I know you heard all that before, but, truly if you knew me or knew my inner circle you would know what is up, and know that to be true.
No matter what you are, you have a tough road to hoe, and, I know it to be hard enough without all the other shit pounding you down.
So, consider this as a swan song, I know you probably don’t want to hear that, because you need me to keep the drama alive, you need to keep people seeing what will happen, because you feel you MUST WIN. You must WIN the hearts and minds of what is left of a scene that was long ago buried.
You hope for guys like Macgyver to come out and start posting on your board, you know he is due out any minute now, and will offer the scene new novelties and fraud like never before. You hope for others to come back too, which is why you are trying to make a power board like you are now. Trouble is, it wont ever be like you want, it will always be in flux, and no one will ever trust any admins or mods again.
But, what does that say about me? Nothing, all it says is that I have an opinion in which you will never read, because you cant. I know you cant, and I know why you cant. Without me you have a shade of a chance, with me you have drama galore to keep people in. I wont give you that pleasure, I don’t need to, for I know or at least I suspect HIGHLY what you are, and what you are doing. I will say yes, I could be wrong, I could be way off about it, and if so, then what the fuck, its just one guys opinion that is wrong, I am not the world, nor am I the scene. We make our own scenes in our heads, and that is how we live, and let me say this, that scene is a very, very, very bad place to live. I wish you luck in the shadows and the darkness in which you find yourself, for I no longer live there, and will never have to again. You on the other hand will need all the luck you can get.
Take care whoever you are, and by all means post and get the last word in.
Earl Your Neighbor On The Net…
August 18, 2006 at 10:09 am
One last thing before I go ICEBOY.
ICEMAN IS ETHICS!!! One Nicholas Jacobsen aka ETHICS who was a moderately good hacker probably with even more skills now that he went to work for the Secret Service.
There is much to show that this is in fact true.
We all know Ethics who was involved with hacking Tmobile, has yet to be sentenced, and was offered a job at the Secret Service in replacement of one Peter Cavvechia, the agent in New York that Ethics hacked into his sidekick account and gave that information to Myth. Pete was fired for storing information relating to a case he was working on concerning Myth. Ethics was then offered a job with the Secret Service.
Ethics was charged and of course NEVER sentenced.
The job of course was offered and he did take it.
Since then, he has been on track to take over as is his wont to do.
Take care Iceman aka Ethics.
August 20, 2006 at 11:25 am
el you are delusional and lonely if you honestly think i want you around. you are this dishonest technically inept troll who has been stalking me and ranting about me when i have done nothing to you. you are malevolent, misguided, technically bungling, and wrong on every front.
you are also internet handicapped. if you knew anything about the technology whatsoever i wouldn’t have to keep educating you about what server software we run, as though it was any of your business anyway. if you need to read up on the lessons i explained in a lot more detail in the El Marichi Federal Snitch section of the forum. one last time punk, even if we ran iis, so does egold and western union, so your entire attack is baseless and weak from the start. i mean seriously you are so weak you have to cling to rant about how you think we ran one software versus another?? are you insane? who gives a fuck?
not to mention, we are running a secure dedicated host in IRAN, and you are running on a shared server in the United States of Rat Punk America. is this the strongest case of pyschological transference ever seen? you need to take a good look in the mirror fed hunter, because your compulsive law enforcement worship and you information gathering activities are the very core of what you claim to hate. you are the enemy you are stalking and you don’t even see it.
“If by any chance I was wrong about you or your board, well, I am truly sorry”
YOU *ARE* WRONG YOU PUNK MOTHERFUCKER and your sorry doesn’t cut it since you couch it in a parade of other false accusations! what an insincere crock of shit! how dare you even say the words you aren’t sorry one bit. you think you can decrease your guily by slipping it in like that??! you couldn’t admit you were wrong if we sat in prison together and you read my psi and heard my entire life story. you could be promoted to director of the fbi and still not fucking admit that you had me wrong. you can stick that apology in your cavernous ass el. why don’t you pull your head out and look at the facts instead of clinging to your wrong idea you had months ago, and get it figured out. ok? then come back.
why don’t you call up some of those fed buddies of yours, you know the ones you ratted us out to! and ask them if they can run carding forums in iran. or hack other servers and take their data. jesus fuck are you kidding me?? just ask anyone with the tiniest bit of common sense. you are 100% wrong about me and the forum el. wrong as could be.
here is my public challenge to you again.
name a reasonable way that i can do some action such that you will finally admit you were wrong and give me a real apology, publicly. some way obviously where i do not have to expose my identity beause you know goddamn well that is not going to happen.
that’s the challenge. i challenge you to prove you are not some close minded little one track george bush. show that you have some scrap of intelligence and can base your arguement in fact intead of emotion. because if you say there is nothing i can possibly do to disprove your lies, then how can anyone take you seriously. you are nothing more than hot air.
here’s a start:
i am running a carding forum!
i run it from iran!
i owned and absorbed 4 other forums! (that you know about that i have chosen to show so far)
..
how about you add to the list if you really think it is necessary and say what it would take for you to eat your lies and apologize?
because you OWE ME that apology, asshat.
August 21, 2006 at 9:20 am
I don’t owe you shit cop. But, I tell you what. You were hosted from the USA for eons, then after we complained to the scene about it you claimed you couldn’t get Offshore hosting because it took ID and passports and such. Now, just because someone in the Secret Service speaks farsi, or arabic, you finally get to host in Iran, and now you talk shit about it to everyone as if you fucking were hosting there forever.
As for your action statement, no, all informants and cops can commit crimes bitch, Read the federal guidelines. We know what you are about, and we know you are going to fail. Matter of fact, we are going to make sure you do, then you can run around like checkmate and make all sorts of wild claims under different nicks as long as you want.
Tell ya what asshat, you come over here and meet me in private, that will prove it to me. Then, we can talk it over, LIKE, reasonable men.
Other than than, you are a fucking piece of shit on my shoes, and you will GO DOWN.
Its a GUARANTEE….
Every friend you have could be one of us 🙂 Keep that in mind while you work bozo lol..
Enjoy it while you have it Iceboy, cause it wont last much longer.
August 21, 2006 at 11:51 am
el you are small and pathetic. you have no life of your own so you obsess with mine. it must be so sad for your wife and children that they have only you. how depressing for them. does your little boy know daddy is a wannabe cop with delusions of grandure or do you have him fooled like you fooled your little henchmen yesmen?
what you don’t realize is i already have accounts in your “vip” just like i was a member of thevouched and they didn’t know it. you are the one who is fucked, snitch. i know your ops and if you continue to play dirty i will fuck you.
as for your physical threats which i have ignored. you small dick limp sack of shit. i could fucking tear you apart with my bare hands but a COWARD snitch like yourself would call the cops and scramble for a weapon at the first sight of me. you miserable little prick. you only talk big because you know since you are a federal snitch in constant contact with the cops that you could have me arrested if i showed up. you really picked the wrong person to fuck with, but everyone who is reading this, you can watch thegrifters.net for the message soon enough because that is where it will be posted, and i’m not talking about his snitch forum. you are pure loser el. owned loser.
tell your superiors at the fbi i will never fall for some coward ploy like yours they will need to think of something better.
August 21, 2006 at 11:52 am
also you the laughingstock of the scene and for anyone who actually knows what’s what.
you think the feds can do what i do and you think they host sites in iran you are out of your goddamn mind. you are a fucking idiot el, and everyone can see it.
August 21, 2006 at 6:39 pm
Ohhh, so scared I am.
You talk allot of shit. Lets not forget you just moved to Iran. Your fed site4 is getting allot of heat for its rips of everyone elses DB. Plus, no one gives a shit. You wont come here because your cop buds wont let you. I openly challenge you to be a man and face up to it b y coming here, if not, sit the fuck down chump and admit you cant make a move.
Talk is cheap. I am waiting for you. Come on be a man, you can talk the talk but cant walk the walk. Is that it?
Ok, well talk on iceboy. Its all you got besides pussy between your legs. Until you can show yopurself to be a man and come here and face me, your worthless and weak.
By not coming, you show the world how much of a chicken dick you truly are.
Come on, no cops are here, its in smallville, you can come and no one will be the wiser. Know why you wont?
Cause your a punk and you got all that punk up in ya.
Your over before you even begun.
August 21, 2006 at 6:40 pm
Iceman, I shit em…
August 23, 2006 at 4:27 pm
I’m Byron Acohido, a tech reporter for USA TODAY. I’d like to interview Earl/El and Iceman for a story I’m doing on carder forums. My email address is first initial last name at usatoday.com. Please ping me.
September 5, 2006 at 12:20 am
god what a couple of whiny self-aggrandizing jerks you both are.
Nice blog afterlife. I just wish I didn’t spend 20 minutes of my life reading through the rants of these two wannabe supergrasses.
You’re a snitch! No, you are! Yeah well I’m the biggest snitch of all! No, I am! Rarrrrrr.
September 20, 2006 at 11:12 am
Here’s a question for el and iceman ,Where has both of your websites cm and tgn gone ?
September 22, 2006 at 2:42 pm
Rick, the web sites are still up. Interestingly enough, just as Iceman said, the cardersmarket.com domain is registered out of Iran (West Azarbaijan), but in reality it could be anywhere.
The new IP address is 85.185.159.140 which RIPE lists as originating from ABARKOUH AZAD UNIVERCITY registered by Mohammad Hassan RahimiNasab.
Who knows if this is real or not. Maybe someone can call the guy and ask. =)
September 27, 2006 at 1:22 am
He has it port forwarded back to 207-234-131-157.ptr.primarydns.com
That is the home IP of CM, always has been always will be. He cant stop coming to TG or the book site from that IP, which everyone knows was CM’s original IP block. The fact that he still comes browsing around with that dumb IP shows he is still operating with it and was NEVER shut down because if he had been shut down, he wouldn’t still have that IP block now would he?
A few people have said they know for a fact he is port forwarding back to the United States to keep his venue on track. Either way, he tries to say he doesn’t vend and only offers “information”, but everyone knows he is vending on that site.
He is a bullshit artist the likes no one has seen since Imperium made his declaration speech. Matter of fact, people say (I)ceman is (I)mperium. He sure does act like him. Imperium who was DEV, aka Devachan, who claimed he was the only guy on CJ’s VPN who didn’t get busted and was an elite hacker from the old days, has always held CJ in high regard. He was best buds with him, and in fact was given authority on SC by CJ, yet, was never busted he was the ONLY one on the VPN that never got took out. He could never live that down.
When he was blown away on IAACA, some say re-assigned a new job to get him and his militaristic attitudes away from the scene. People knew he would come back. This has been talked of along with him being DDT aka OTF. I don’t know though, he reeks of Imperium, and has a bit of Ethics and DDT/OTF in him, and if he is Imperium, everyone knows Imperium was LE.
Anyway, he, like Gollum, claimed he was NOT working for feds. Gollum of course was just indicted as a CONFIDENTIAL INFORMANT, had worked closely with Imperium for quite sometime.
I also point out that Gollum worked with Iceman and actually did ops with Iceman. So, one has to wonder why Iceman isn’t busted yet.
Here is Iceman telling his sad tale about Gollum:
{Quote:El
As for Golum, well, anyone who gives him a new nick to work under and keeps it quiet has the eye on them
Icemans reply:
again, i would love to hear what’s really up with all this. i’ll read DDT2’s post though i think i saw some of that covered there. I haven’t had time to really read it and it looks like a must-read.
i know gollum in almost the exact same way i know you. “some oldschool guy who seems to know what they are doing”. i did read all the fedwatch stuff, but i’m not clear from that in other places it sounded like you and gollum were doing ops together so i’m not clear on this at all. also at one point in checking him out, he sent us some pp fulls that were valid, which i pegged as illegal and per the above discussion, made me think, ok this guy isn’t a fed or fed lackey. don’t feel like you are being condescending in explaining this to me – really i would welcome hearing any clarification about this conflict, i just don’t get it yet.}
So, it appears Iceman is impervious to arrest from the Columbia South Carolina Office of the Secret Service.
I Wonder why?
Plus, here is his stupid reasonings about how he feels that he can do business with someone and know he isn’t the police:
Iceman:
{this is very important for me to find out, because it is how i have been making trust decisions. we have it in mind to have a lawyer give us the definitive answer, my partner said he was on that and would find out. i am skeptical that we’ll ever get a straight answer though because lawyers seem to enjoy taking your money and providing you heuristic guesses rather than concrete facts. maybe i’ve just had bad lawyers. i would really like to know a specific way that i can find something a cop or ci can’t do. something that if they do it, their cases are all thrown out 100%. what a holy grail. so far i have been living as though “doing a criminal act” disqualifies them. like people who smoke a joint with someone to make sure that person isn’t a cop. or hooker who asks her john “are you a cop? you know you have to tell me if you are.” heh so i dunno. i would really like to get a quality lawyer to do the research and get a stack of case law and give us a solid statement about this, something that also includes the latest patriot and such provisions. if i am clinging to a false idea i’d sure like to know.}
Man, if anyone trusted this guy from that statement above, you would be walking right into a jail cell. Plus, he types just like Macgyver used to type, all lower case.
One thing is for sure, his test proved false. Gollum did in fact give Iceman fulls while working for the Secret Service. Iceman of course has no issues or fears from LE over it, which is why he can come out and talk like he is a carding king and cant be caught.
True professional criminals don’t act that way. They shun the spotlight, and the minute its on them, they close up shop go somewhere else and re-open under a new name.
Iceman of course wont leave or do any of that and he loves to taunt the police. Which means he is either the dumbest criminal on earth, or, he has no fear from the police because he works for them just like Gollum did, under the gun or getting paid. Either way he is smokin back bacon.
CM pre IP changeover:
CM Hosting
Senderbase Lookup of CM IP
At TG yesterday:
Ooops. Looks like CM has a problem using proxies and browsing safe, they still use the ptr.primarydns.com IP. Plus, they were in fact using IIS:
CM using IIS
So, I think that wraps up the CM issues. But of course Iceman will come back and refute everything, INCLUDING that he DOESN’T Allow VENDING or fraud to take place on CM. See that is something he has said before, that its only about sharing the info and NOT vending fraud and identity theft and credit card fraud.
Nooooo, doesn’t happen on CM.
Your Uncle Earl
September 28, 2006 at 2:43 pm
Intresting stuff. Earl I still am unable to acesss your forum. Rick ross
September 28, 2006 at 2:48 pm
By the way If I remember correct weren’t both of you from sc at one time?
September 28, 2006 at 3:49 pm
What forum you trying to access Rick? Thegrifters.net is up, so cant figure why you cant access it. CM is a bitch to get in as they are only targeting people known in the scene right now lol
As for me being SC, yes, I was the 18th member according to the older DB. This current Iceman wasn’t a member as Iceman, even though there was an Iceman back in the day who partnered with Waterwalks on SC. This Iceman today is more than likely Imperium, who was DEV on SC, and the only one not busted on the Cumbajohnny VPN. He then went to reign on IAACA later on as Imperium when people wouldn’t let his DEV nick live down the CJ VPN issue. If he is Imperium, he is now back at work, this time though for the South Florida Cybercrime Task Force in Miami Florida.
Earl
September 29, 2006 at 5:29 am
el mariachi has got to be the stupidest human being on the planet. you have **someone** SURFING YOUR WEBSITE and you somehow jump to the wild conclusion that this is cardersmarket host?? hahahaha what a load of shit. truly internet HANDICAPPED!
el you are a revolting little troll.
everyone, have a good look at el’s newest CRIME BOARD and wonder why this microdick piece of shit is here badmouthing me every chance he gets. i am competetion to him and he can’t stand it.
he calls his crime board iCard. what a douchbag with no style.
http://www.thegrifters.net/vanilla/iCard/people.php
while you are looking at websites, how about this gem
http://www.zone-h.net/defaced/2006/09/23/thelegaleagles.org/
el is just a lonely pathetic little snitch who can’t stand that we are in IRAN and outside HIS REACH and the reach of HIS federal masters. stupid little punk bitch.
want to see something about ip addresses?? have a look at THEGRIFTERS, and ICARD, el mariachi aka DAVID RENSHAW THOMAS’ CRIME FORUMS.
100% zero doubt, no speculation, indisputed, THEGRIFTERS HOSTED IN THE UNITED STATES. what a fucking snitch rat punk. pot kettle black, and he’s wrong to boot.
thegrifters = 64.92.167.250
Savvis SAVVIS (NET-64-92-160-0-1)
64.92.160.0 – 64.92.175.255
Layered Technologies, Inc. CW-64-92-160-0 (NET-64-92-160-0-2)
64.92.160.0 – 64.92.175.255
el is a RAT who was kicked off shadowcrew for snitching, and there is no redemption for this turd! he is pure angry reject and no amount of badmouthing me will ever make him look anything but the RAT SNITCH PUNK he is.
get a life you dumbfuck loser. get your snitch nose and your fbi buddies the fuck out of my business and mind your own.
September 29, 2006 at 5:53 am
a few calm FACTS about the conflicts and lies from david thomas (aka el mariachi)
1. he calls me a fed
2. he says i hacked, a criminal act
3. he says i vend??, a criminal act
4. he says i am dev/imperium
5. he says i am ethics
6. he says fbi agent speaks farsi and thats how i’m in iran
7. then he says i’m not in iran
8. el runs two CRIME forums thegrifters and icard
9. el hosts his forums in the usa
10. el logs visitors ip addresses and routinely exposes them publicly in screenshots
11. he admits he called the fbi about cardersmarket
12. he thinks i’m Macgyver
13. el calls me criminal as though he is straight, but he is criminal as fuck running at least two carding forums IN THE USA “we are trying to drive everyone out and underground as deep as they will go.”
those facts add up to a confused and pathetic little man, social maladjusted, and completely incapable of minding his own fucking business and refraining from ratting out his fellow man.
anyone nodding along to his lunacy you ought to get yourself checked.
September 30, 2006 at 3:39 pm
Sorry Iceman, but TG is not a crime board and iCard was a piece of software we picked up called Vanilla. Its a forum software and I thought it would be nice to include it like iPod, lol, iCard, get it?
Its a joke you idiot.
TG is not a crime board and I dare you to show it as such. Everything posted on that board is totally legit. Your upset because you are not in the upper level db where all the talk is about boards such as yours. You claim you have hacked TG and have the board watched, if so, then you would know that no crime is allowed or encouraged on TG at anytime whatsoever especially in the upper areas.
We delete posts that have anything to do with facilitating crime. TG is an intelligence board that has people from all around the scene on it discussing various goings on in the scene for whatever purposes they deem fit.
Your constant reference to TG being a crime board despite all you already know about TG NOT being a crime board is evidence of your lousy attempt to discredit anything that we do on that board, and as such shows you to be a very lame agent in disguise.
We have you pegged now working out of the Greater Miami area, which means that you are either South Florida Cybercrime Task Force with an office in Miami Florida or just a plain old everyday stooge of an agent working out of either the SS office or the FBI. Depends on what people’s perspective is on who you might be. I say possibly and more than likely Imperium and as such Imperium was a hired gun for hire who went about from state to state offering his rat patrol services. It is of course a matter of no real consequence since your board is faltering by the way side everyday you continue.
September 30, 2006 at 3:40 pm
While you do get visits, and you do read PM’s and you do log IP’s, and you do catch people from time to time, you are operating on a very thin string. We must be getting to you, because you seem angry these days. Maybe your angry at all the links above? Maybe your angry at not having your daily arrest.
I never admitted anywhere about calling the FBI on CM. Please show references to said post. Please also show references to allegations that TG is now a crime board and is running two crime boards?
As for you doing criminal acts, I think we showed that when Imperium made his declaration speech on IAACA.
The police can and often do commit crimes while undercover, and they are totally authorized to commit said crimes under Attorney General guidelines as well as police guidelines.
I think it is evident that the police must maintain their cover and will go out and do things like joe job web sites, and ddos web sites and or hack or deface websites to show to other criminals that they are in fact criminals. I think it was evident that you hacked thelegaleagles website already and we thank you for posting that link and admitting such. We have allot of juice and coffee waiting for you soon. So, be aware that while you might think you and your operation are tough, you will be reduced to a dismissal soon enough just like you were reduced to the same dismissal on IAACA.
Remember a true agent doesn’t want exposure, a real agent wants his ops on the quiet. Your coming all unglued and bent out of shape just to protect a web site. This shows that you are desperate and needing to maintain a rep that you somehow think I or the people on TG, which also frequent your board, are somehow against you and trying to destroy you or your mission.
This cant be further from the truth. You go ahead on and do what you got to do. All we try to do is educate the public on those hidden missions you guys are always on, because the public wants to know or should know or has a right to know what the police are doing to protect them.
I am sure that this doesn’t reflect well on you with all this publicity, but, since you are trying your hardest to show everyone that you are a big bad hacker criminal, lets not also let them forget that Cumbacop was that same exact way. Cant be muscled he said.
To tough.
He said, “Were Hackers”
Just like you claim to be. Go ahead do what you think is best. I said also that you typed like Macgyver, not that you were. Also, you failed to mention the screen shots we posted refuting all your earlier claims. I think we pretty much blew you out of the water there at primarydns.com, but, you keep a coming because as we all know, that is where you are.
September 30, 2006 at 3:40 pm
Anyway why does it make a difference?
Your not about information sharing like you led this blog owner to think. No, in fact, you are all about the crime right PISSANT? (Imperium always used that word which denotes a southern mountain boy talk)
Here is your site clearly vending when you said you were NOT doing so and only sharing information:
More vending:
Here is your Vending policy posted by you Iceman:
That shows you do in fact encourage vending when you said you didn’t.
Here is another thread in which you claimed even more how you wanted CM set up:
This also shows you clearly to have a very early agenda about what CM stood for or was going to stand for as that post is somewhat dated.
Here is Iceman Facilitating vending.
By the way, most of this was going on when your board was hosted in the United States Of America and not in Iran as you now CLAIM you are in.
And even more vending going on
Here is you ranting to your members about using IIS. By the way, we meant you using IIS, which had been hacked to death by quite a humber of hackers, only to show that you were in fact a HOME BOX business, and not using real VIRTUAL hosting like everyone else has done. In fact we only showed you using IIS to drive home the point that you were in fact a true HOME system or a HOME Office system, using your own cobbled together framework to run your board using IIS, which TG used back in the day lol. Of course that was back a long time ago. But, we know that tactic, which is why we mentioned it, we were truly not trying to say you were less secure because of it, rather, that you used it because you were in fact using your home office computer to run your crime empire 🙂
September 30, 2006 at 3:41 pm
This last screen shot here shows the actual focus of what we believe is your investigation, which we believe to be Novelty Production.
Ad you can clearly see on your very limited posted on board. The Fake-ID area is the true focus of the board. Just look at all those views and posts in that section while other sections of this poor mans cobbled together board show almost non existent views and posts.
I think that above clearly shows just where your true focus was. Why on earth bust more carders? There are scant few left to bust.
However, the federal government has yet to provide a major sweep of online novelty producers, so, possibly this is why CM was started. However the naming of CM escapes me. Maybe you felt that calling it CardersMarket was just a way to make yourself look like you were a carding board, when in fact your main focus was something entirely different.
Either way, that is evidence right off your own board that refutes almost everything you say or have said in the past about the intent of Cardersmarket. Now, all you seem to have left is an old 4 year old police report and some oft repeated discussion that El is still somehow in business, which cant be further from the truth. El has not done ANY business at all, nor would he ever do it. Sure, its hard to get out, but, in the end, out is where he must stay. Your police report postings are old hat that other LE agents used long ago when others were thinking that doing business with El was something to think about and while he was ouit ranting about SC and Cumbajohnny being the police.
To bad you don’t know what was really going on. But, I guess you just don’t have a real brain as you never have acted as you did.
By the way, I am tiring of the bitch punk rants. You do have the ability to post properly as we have seen it, so either get the other agent using your Iceman nick on here who posts very well thought out executive posts or short of that stop with the bitch punk stuff. I did it and it only serves to cheapen the message. So, while I can slang talk with ya, I choose to try a more executive approach from now on. We all know we are each able to talk gutter slang and talk the talk, but since you cant truly walk the walk and come over and talk like “Reasonable Men” about these issues, then lets quit with the “I Fucked Guys like you in prison” talk and leave that for Patrick Swayze Road House movies 🙂
September 30, 2006 at 3:41 pm
Why don’t you state your case and answer the above allegations properly, and in a proper format. If you are indeed a criminal, explain how and why you opened your board up in the U.S. for a very long time and then finally left the U.S.
Does this mean that its going to be worse now for John Q Public?
Are you proud of your ripping and stealing off the backs of ordinary decent folks who work hard for a living?
Are you in fact a careless person who wants to hurt the ordinary people who work hard for their money?
Do you feel a sense of proud accomplishment when you steal their paychecks or bank accounts from them or facilitate others doing the same?
Do you feel your taunts of the police and coming out in such a public way are just going to lead to your eventual arrest and with it your entire board like they did on SC? And if not, why not?
If your LE, why run such missions? What does it accomplish when you allow the victimization of thousands or millions of people, and only arrest 28 guys when thousands of other guys get away with it?
Isn’t it like letting a criminal lose in someones house while they sleep, and then when they wake up they notice they lost everything and then have nowhere to turn to get it back? I mean get it back easily. And the reasons you give for running such boards are
1. You want to highlight the problem of online fraud.
and
2. Get more money to fight the problem of online fraud.
However victimizing the average public to highlight a problem you or LE is creating or allowing, and then allowing it to go on for such a great length of time is kinda going the distance with John Q Public isn’t it?
I mean, how do you explain to John Q Public that you allowed him to get ripped off all because you want to get more money for your office? That is kinda like stealing to get what you want right?
I mean, this is how Shadowcrew was run. It was run by LE, then after it was over, they were asked why. The answer was to highlight the problem, and to get more money for them to fight it in answering why they left SC up for so long.
So, in effect, LE allows for people to get victimized all so it can highlight a problem THEY CREATED by ALLOWING said market places to exist and grow all so they can get more money in the budget to fight a problem they either create or allow.
That sounds on the surface as if its highly illegal and dubious at best. However, being illegal is not a detterent for LE, because as we all know, the police and their informants and assets CAN and routinley DO commit and or condone ILLEGAL ACTS to MAINTAIN their status as UNDERCOVER.
Therefore, LE is in the business of becoming criminals in order to catch criminals. Now while that is no secret in drugs, it is now being applied in online fraud investigations, whereby many LE agents in cybercrime now come from.
So, they are applying the same exact police methods they learned in the drug trade to online fraud. However most of them are not proplerly schooled in online affairs and often just come in with that “We cant be muscled” approach, which is a dead giveaway to me and others.
Anyway, Iceman, its been a decent amount of posts here, maybe you should call it a day and run your own board and just stick to one mantra that I learned a VERY LONG TIME AGO and that was:
Be Nice 🙂
Anytime you feel the pressure to explode just
Be Nice 🙂
Take care Iceboy…Good talking to ya..
Earl
September 30, 2006 at 5:14 pm
I’m sorry but wordpress.com controls the post-length option and it’s not something I can increase. You both have lots to say so I wish there was a way I could increase that amount, but until that is an option it will have to be that use several comment posts.
October 1, 2006 at 5:15 am
I am pretty much done with the thread anyway afterlife. The point has already been made, and that was at the start Iceman was telling you that the point of CM was just innocent information sharing. This of course has been refuted, as well as all of his other statements about not using IIS and not vending and so forth. The issue of him being the police is only evident to those who have been around the scene long enough to know the exact playbook the police have used for almost 4 years running.
True professionals that are out there plying a criminal trade are not advertising it as in the days of old. The only people doing that are either foreigners who don’t know any better, people who are only interested in phishing for criminals to bust by posting deals in public to get others to comment on their own culpability in crimes, or LE, which still uses the same tired playbook, because they are usually the last people to see that something is broke and needs fixing.
Truth is, boards are run for a purpose and its not about getting paid. Admins of boards don’t get paid at all by running the board. I have been down that road and know that hardly anyone contributes to a board, and even when they do, is so little as to not even be of any real value. The only real deal is to be able to review people or establish a power base where you can then set up rips and or scams on various vendors to allow them to sell on your board.
When that is done it quickly disolves into anarchy, and the board is eventually shut down.
LE boards don’t have that type of criminality to them. They always seem to have an unlimited budget, and they are always around and in the public’s face, caring little about that public. Its as if to say, hey, here we are, which translates into highlighting the problem of online fraud. LE has this idea that they have to jam it down people’s throats in order to get them to demand more funding for LE to fight the problem. That of course is the other reason to run a board for LE. They eventually get more money. So, they don’t mind press issues today because they can leave the board up no matter how hot it gets.
However, that might change soon.
As for Iceman, I think its obvious that he has an anger problem, and that he has devoted way to much time to defending allegations made by El. If El was such a minor person as Iceman claims, then why go through all that trouble to defend himself and his board from a guy who has no meaning and thus no one listening to him?
Iceman has an entire area of his forum devoted to one guy and a police report.
Seems all he has these days is his obsession with a guy he claims is lame and has no sense and is basically a stumblebum.
I think that Iceman has blocked himself into a corner, and that for some reason he thinks El has way to much power or way to many people listening to him, if not, why fight someone tooth and nail unless one feels people are listening to El.
Iceman has shown himself to be incompetent as well as not being able to deal with his own anger management problems as has been seen for years now, and has shown that he cant run a board worth a shit, as his board hardly has anything going on it as has been shown by the amount of posts on it. Despite this, he has hacked his way to a point where everyone hates him and thinks he is full of shit.
But, despite all of that, he continues to ply his trade without as much as a wimper from the police, no matter how much he taunts them.
Its a dead giveaway.
Anyway as for the thread, I think we have shown the finer points and have the upper hand on allot of his groundless observations which have proven to be nothing buit a pack of lies and half truths.
So, while it has been a fun thread, I think I will draw it to a close on my end as continuing it seems pointless as it drags down into a pile of shit with him having to hack legit business sites to prove a point that he is a criminal. How lame is that where one has to go out and actually deface a site to give himself legitimacy amongst his peers?
Its almost Romper roomish to even believe that such an icon in the scene has to resort to being such a little kid and having to prove he is a bad ass by such trivial pursuits. One would think he would be to busy with his board and the making of piles of money and getting rich quick to even be involved in any drama at all that would expose him or his board to unwanted drama.
Everyone knows the only people that are not doing anything at all are the ones who are always into the drama. People that are in real crime business never even get involved in that shit because its just a distraction to the real business at hand. So, we all know that Iceman probably wakes up with El on his brain and goes to bed thinking of his next anti El move.
Funny how just a few months ago Iceman was claiming El was an ANTI Carder who was against the scene and trying to shut it down, and now all of a sudden El is a criminal running two crime sites.
One wonders why he cant make up his mind?
Is El an Anti Carder?
or
Is El a criminal running crime sites?
Pretty dumb.
Its evident amongst those that know that El isn’t running any crime sites at all and that TG is an intelligence board devoted to talking about the scene. The iCard site was put up to see what Vanilla offered as well as to shutter Iceman’s attempts at hacking the TG site and getting pertinent information no one wants him to have. So, the Vanilla board was just that, a board where people go go to and talk without fearing the likes of him hacking it and stealing the db or anyone else reading what they are saying.
While I am sure eventually it will get hacked, its a trial baloon and not even a crime board nor anywhere close. And anyone who wants to go there to see what is going on can do so. Thus his continued rants about El are easily refuted, thus making him the loser in this debate.
On a last note, one would wonder why he would continually call out El as working for the government. Because if El had worked for the government at some point in his life, then, everything El learned about that type of business would be now on the table for discussion, and one could easily see how El would then know exactly what an LE board looks like and sounds like.
So, maybe Iceman needs to redisign his assertions a bit, lest El becomes credible one day, and then everything El said about him might just ring true, as El would have had plenty of experience in that area and would know exactly who and what Iceman is because of it. In other words, be careful what you wish for Iceman, you might just get screwed in the end when that plays out.
Earl Your Favorite Uncle..
October 2, 2006 at 4:43 am
The fact of the matter is I have never been affiliated with LE in any way. This entire smear campaign by this punk David is nothing more than a jealousy fit. He has been completely wrong on almost every single technical argument, and there is no degree of evidence that can possibly dissuade him in his irrational conquest. He is a small person with delusions of grandeur.
Any rational person who reads everything David (El Mariachi) had to say would see the mountain of contradictions and obvious lies and misdirection. He contradicts himself in almost every post.
Which is it punk, I’m a criminal, or I’m a fed? MAKE UP YOUR MIND YOU PATHETIC MEDIA WHORE.
And as for IIS you stupid internet handicapped mongrel punk, you accessed HTTP at port 80, not HTTPS at port 443. You stupid simple fucking retard. I explained this over and over and over but it doesn’t sink in through your shallow little pea brain.
If you would turn on a browser sniffer and watch the headers as you access the site, you would see that from day one we have been running unix. God you are fucking dumb. We never ran IIS ever even once. AND EVEN IF WE DID SO DOES EGOLD! So does WESTERN UNION and CHASE BANK. You dumb fucking idiot. You make these charged arguments as though you have any knowledge at all but you don’t!! You just try to play on the ignorance of the public. Surprise punk, but much of this audience knows which of the two of us knows what they are talking about! And its not you 🙂
Meanwhile, like the ridiculous little pansy you are, you run your own forum in the UNITED STATES and run it on shared hosting with over 200 other websites. The feds can get hourly dumps of your entire database and you wouldn’t even know it, you are exposed as FUCK. Yet you dare talk to me about security? You pathetic newb. If you think there is a security issue at cardersmarket COME GET IT PUNK. I have been offering a cash reward for a long time, maybe you can buy some more of that famous gay tea and crumpets you are always fagging about.
Seriously bend over boy, step up or shut the fuck up!
You are hot air David, nothing more.
You better pray to your god that I am never outed, because not only will you look like even more of a jackass than you already do, but then I will have no hibition about coming over and wringing your snitch punk neck.
October 2, 2006 at 3:26 pm
More lameness. As I said, you have nothing left to discuss. Your whole argument about being a information only board was refuted.
IIS was on port 80, and showed your board running IIS, which meant that at that time you were in fact using it. You didn’t configure port 80 because your using https, which is to authenticate your users actual IP’s and allow you to identify people more easily. The tactic though is masked to say that your all secure if you use https, and your users think they are more secure by using it, which in fact only protects from MIM attacks and or interceptions from man in the middle deals which dont happen on forums like that.
Crime boards generally don’t nee that type of security problem because LE nor anyone else doesn’t need to use a man in the middle attack on a forum. This is also evident because LE in their indictments of users or members of boards, which yours is one of, always uses other tactics to make arrests, so man in the middle attacks are just not needed nor do they need to be protected from said attacks. HTTPS forces most people to authenticate or forces them to always have an HTTPS proxy, which not everyone always has every moment of the day, meaning people will eventually just end up using their own IP to get on a board to check a message or whatever. That of course is not your fault, but, its because of the forced use of HTTPS used against them, they often find themselves using their own IP when they run out of HTTPS proxies. Granted it might only be a temp thing, but, as you know, it only takes ONE screw up to identify someone, so, why not lie in wait for that screw up right?
Most boards have always used either virtual hosting or dedicated IP’s on a virtual hosting account.
These days, only properly budgeted boards are on their own servers. Yours just happens to be as we have noted, using a home system or a home/office box or plain box hooked up to either a T1 or T3 or possibly using shared T1 or T3 hosting or at least that is what we figure since you were never using any type of shared hosting and your server was never sent to any data center, such as was the case with SC when they sent a server box to Russia once.
When you left your primarydns.com server and bought into hosting in Iran, you changed that. But, it took us coming at you daily about it to get you to finally resolve it. Up until that time, you were running your crime empire out of the Miami Ft Lauderdale area using ptr.primarydns.com nameservers. You cant deny it either as its in the records and shows above in this thread as well.
Your continued use of primarydns.com also shows that you still have those IP’s which you used for your crime empire and were not in fact shut off by any complaints by us or anyone else including the Los Pepes people, because if you had been shut off, you would not be using those Ip’s as you still seem to do as they would have shut you down and taken your IP’s with you. So, that argument about us or Los Pepes shutting you down was refuted as well. You moved because we had you under pressure to produce offshore. Then, when you finally went there, you felt you could then talk shit about it. Well, there is also port forwarding or redirecting, and its used extensively to mask where your servers really are. IAACA once did it long ago when they were under fire.
Hell, I could do it if I wanted to waste time on it, but, truth is, since TG is not a crime board, we don’t need to. That of course is another in a long line of arguments that have been refuted. So, it looks as if you are out of arguments.
TG=Not a crime board. We could care less who gets the db, as long as you don’t get it.
We already know that hosting companies get DB’s if they want. We have been at this longer than you have.
As for your security, you run VBulletin, so, as you know, VB has been hacked to death. You yourself hacked DM and they were using VB, so, what is up with you that makes you more secure? You can only patch a forum OS to keep it secure. There are no extras you can do with Mysql or VB other than keep it up to date, and that still doesn’t protect you from 0 day exploits, and there is nothing you could do if someone found one and used it against you. The rest of your gobbdlygook about security is just that bullshit. LE has made cases on your board agsinst your members and the inditments that show that they are on your board making cases shows that no member on your board or any board for that matter who is particpating in criminal activity is safe from arrest. Therefore, your security doesn’t protect them or anyone else from a federtal case.
Your constant references to Imperium like dialogue also make you look about as childish as one can get. People know that whole Imperium bullshit, and have already rejected that as well. Your tough talk has been refuted because you have not shown up here at my locale to take any type of action as the invitation was there. As a real criminal, you would be easily able to do so. But, because you are not a real criminal, rather LE or working for them, you cant. Because as such you can only go so far with your shtick.
So, failure to come over is another refuted issue. You are not a real criminal for if you were, you would have easily come over to discuss issues with me pertaining to your board.
As for you using my name, please continue, as if that makes any difference to me. Its like you LE types always use my name in your public posts, as if that scares me or something. Its weird, but only LE has used that. Gollum used it, Imperium used it, Cumbajohnny used it, all rats, cops and assets. Criminals just say El, they don’t say David or whatever my name is, only LE or their stooges seem to use it, which is another tell that you are probably with them because you seem to use that post after post, as if its some kind of banner or flag you have that you can carry that says “LOOK This guys name is XXX.” Its truly laughable.
If I was hot air, why do you defend to the death everything I say about you? Why?
Why listen to me?
Why come here and deny, deny, deny? It makes no sense unless you feel that people listen to me and I must somehow NOT be full of hot air. Only people that feel I am of no consequence would walk away from posts like these and not give a good damn about it.
And as far as wringing necks are concerned, Gollum already made those threats and yours are no different than his, they are empty because you LE types cant do that and get away with it. You know when you did that before or when Imperium did that before, he was fired. So, you got this mentality that says OK, we will do this when the job is over lol. I say, if your so big and tough, why not take your small dick and come over and just deal with it?
You cant.
Why not?
Anyway, I already outted you, so, there isn’t anything holding you back. Your either
1. LE straight up.
2. An Informant working undercover because you are or were under the gun.
3. An asset for hire who goes around various LE agencies and begs for work and eventually gets hired to do a job of busting people.
4. An asset who used to be a criminal who thinks that when the job is over he will go back to being a criminal and talks big about it.
I think though that its evident now that you are Imperium.
He always had that southern flair for control and threats and southern slang talk. You mention in your forum about me being an anklebiter, which is a southern term, you also mention Pissant many times which is another southern term used by southern mountain boys. Imperium used these same words and tactics, which means you either are him or look up to him and try to be like him, maybe he is your hero. Maybe you have a picture of him on your wall. Who knows.
As for everything else, everything we have said about you has proven true so far which is detailed above, and you fail again and again and again to answer the allegations above in this thread. Which means to us that you are PUNK’d…
Or whatever that is…
Take care Iceboy waterboy watertoy…
October 3, 2006 at 4:07 am
You are an idiot and rat and I have nothing to prove. I spelled out the facts in earlier posts and you chose to ignore them. Your loss. Have a nice day 🙂
October 9, 2006 at 4:05 pm
Well what does Iceman the Rat have to say about the events of the past two days? We now have a few spoof websites posting up with statements supposedly from Jilsi and El mariachi stating that the pig bastards bought the DM and TG databases from the hosts. The only reason much attention is being paid to this is because DM was down for about a day or so because the host kicked them off for TOS violations. So what’s the real deal with http://www.darkmarket.ws/vbb_06 ? Is it safe to use?
October 10, 2006 at 9:43 am
both those clownz El and Iceman are scumbags. They be both destroyin the game. We got El Scumbago working with LE and reporters to destroy the carding scene, and Iceman is helping the pigs bring in some fresh meat to save his own ass. These two fucks act like they are both well meaning peeps on opposite ends of the spectrum, but they are both jerkoffs who are trying to get people on the carding forums busted. They just both have their own ways of goin about it. Don’t trust either. And they like cuasin this drama cause it makes people scared to go on the carding websites too. Fuck I bet these two fucks are really working for each other in their number 1 goal of helping the pigs.
October 11, 2006 at 7:40 pm
well ICE breaker that is a great theory! i often consider el is an invention of the feds altogether. after all what is his function but to profile and attack carders? pure federale.
today that dumb punk got snuffed. thegrifters hacked owned and wiped. the full sql of both thegrifters as well as iCard.
http://www.zone-h.net/defaced/2006/10/12/www.thegrifters.net/
told you he was in my yard. he should have stayed home.
you think i’m a scumbag for running a forum? suppose you have some harsh words for ol’ craig of craigslist, for “helping pigs” bust all those hookers, huh? such pathetic twisted logic. go break some ice.
as i said i have nothing to prove, and now having beat down david renshaw thomas federal snitch, i make my exit.
watch out for lengthy ranting bullshit from that donut huffing pig, he has to have the last word.. but as for iceman i’m dead and gone. unlike you people i pay attention to my own business. learn a lesson. move on and leave me the fuck alone.
October 11, 2006 at 8:32 pm
I’m about to own CM. I’m out as of the 5th. You can hack TG but I’m going to completely own CM. Have a nice day Icepick.
October 12, 2006 at 4:31 pm
It looks like GOllum or who ever aint jokin about owning CM. But I saw today that TG got that message. Guess El Mariachi is pissed off. Are these two jokers gonna keep hacking each other? Fuck let this BS rest. We got enough problemz with the pigs. We don’t need you two jerkoffs causin more trouble. Shout the fuck up. You both are ruining the scene more then fucks like Alex Echo. I’m outta here bitches.
October 12, 2006 at 5:37 pm
David you need to shut the fuck up. Keep hiding while you can.
October 13, 2006 at 7:57 am
this blog is funny as hell. you got two pieces of scum El and IceBitch fighting over the title of the biggest destructor of carding forums. I’d like to put you two twats in a room together and tie a porkchop around your necks. Then I’d let loose a pack of hungry, rabid Pitbulls on your asses. Fuckin stay of the carding sites.
October 13, 2006 at 1:19 pm
[…] A little research shows that one of the authors of the article Byron Acohido, a tech reporter for USA TODAY, interviewed Iceman based off of comments and posts made on a blogging site. […]
October 13, 2006 at 6:44 pm
So a USA Today reporter conducted a fraudulent interview? Hell, he made money off fraud. So why shouldn’t the carders? This is like that episode with the reporter Mr. Blair from the New York Times
November 9, 2006 at 10:43 am
nd as for IIS you stupid internet handicapped mongrel punk, you accessed HTTP at port 80, not HTTPS at port 443. You stupid simple fucking retard. I explained this over and over and over but it doesn’t sink in through your shallow little pea brain.
If you would turn on a browser sniffer and watch the headers as you access the site, you would see that from day one we have been running unix. God you are fucking dumb. We never ran IIS ever even once. AND EVEN IF WE DID SO DOES EGOLD! So does WESTERN UNION and CHASE BANK. You dumb fucking idiot.
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Iceman’s right about this one, if you type in https which is where the site was really located you get IIS because that’s what the web host is running – IIS. CM domain was not configured for redirect apparently. If you type https:// you get CMs unix server.
Hope that helps.
Now all you dipshits from thegrifters need to go away because it seems you’re all either punk reporters and feds or idiots who call the cops on themselves like dillinger.
If Iceman was a fed he must have been a lousy one because I haven’t heard of any major busts coming from CM.
December 11, 2006 at 10:42 pm
Nice to see El finally get his “justice”. You can’t run around sticking your fat, drama queen nose in everyones business without it catching up to you some day. This idiot thought he was GOD! His long ranting self pity writings used to kill me. He messed with the gangsters, and he messed with the cops. All the while he was nothing more than a short little fat bearded old white dude who wanted attention from anyone who would give it to him.
Glad to see him getting it.
Now lets sit back and wait for them to catch up to his main yes-man LC. No doubt El has already given them plenty of information on how to locate him.
Way funny.
January 10, 2007 at 2:17 am
“Now lets sit back and wait for them to catch up to his main yes-man LC. No doubt El has already given them plenty of information on how to locate him.”
Its been a month since you spouted this TROLL, and I’m still around on the boards, large as life, every single day.
Whats the matter? Scared :p
Iceman’s ‘bending buddy’ Silo already got his ass handed to him. Pity all those stupid saps and suck-ups on his board got screwed over and got there assed ripped when he trojaned them and fucked them over.
But then guys like “Iceman” and “Silo” never gave a shit about their members. And the ignorant fool members on both these boards who absolutely REFUSE to listen to any warnings can cry into the wind BOO HOO.
In the end, what those of you reading this should know. Carding boards come and go like the wind, most are either scam sites or run by LE assets. The ‘giveaway’ is ‘nobody from nowhere’s’ starting a board vouching for other nobodies who either become staff on their board or on one they highly recommend. Are these all the same people? Of course.
Whether they call themselves Iceman, or Silo, or Aphex or Dystopia, its all the same shit.
If your naive enough to become a member of such the only question not IF you will be FUCKED, but how
1. Your money if its a scam site
2. Your freedom if its a sting site
January 25, 2007 at 4:52 am
“Its been a month since you spouted this TROLL, and I’m still around on the boards, large as life, every single day.”
I hate to tell ya RETARD but a “TROLL” is someone who is “…..around on the boards, large as life, every single day” and doesn’t do a damn thing but spout off at the mouth about how SMART they are.
That PERFECTLY describes you. And no one needs fantastic super-FBI-Secret Service-LC-Mariachi sniffing tools to see THAT.
You are BANNED on all he boards because you are a punk bitch. YOUR NIC – “LORD CYRIC” – IS LAUGHED AT BY EVERYONE IN THE SCENE, AN YOU DO NOT SHOW UP UNDER IT ANYWHERE BUT TROLL ALLEYS LIKE THIS ONE. You TROLL the boards now.
1000000000% TROLL.
AND NOW THAT EL MARIACHI HAS BEEN ARRESTED AND SECRETLY RELEASED AS A FIELD INFORMANT WE WILL “ALL” SEE SOON HOW “LARGE AS LIFE” YOU “REALLY” ARE, LOLOL
An NO I am not the person above that you called a troll, TROLL. I just find it funny that after hiding under various Nics for so long to Troll Around that you would be so STUPID to call someone ELSE a Troll! It cracks me up lolol!!!!!
January 25, 2007 at 4:56 am
Oh and ps: YOU WERE THE BIGGEST YES-MAN PUSSY THE SCENE EVER SAW. YOU LIVED ON EL MARIACHIS NUTS AND THAT YOU CAN NEVER LIVE DOWN.
TROLL!
January 26, 2007 at 6:50 pm
You know, it quite amusing thinking just what will happen to all those trolls, all those suck-ups and, best of all, all those LE/LE assets (JimR, blackrain, ethics, scarface, kysersose187 and on and on) when cm inevitably goes down hahaha
Where or where will they go LOL
The ‘replacement board’ CTP has already been taken down, and not even much of a hint of any other.
ccpf offers no safe harbour. The Russian forums are no real alternative either. After all, dealing with FSB is no picnic, and they have their own agenda.
No, soon enough it will be ‘the end’ for the last of you pathetic old dinosaurs with your ‘one trick’ playbook.
January 26, 2007 at 9:50 pm
wasn’t that mariachi guy supposed to have been dieing a few years back?
March 12, 2007 at 12:38 pm
What’s the matter? Still scared script kiddies :p? Don’t worry it’ll all be over soon now that El is out.
It’s either going to be your money or your freedom. Choose before LE chooses for you.
March 12, 2007 at 9:28 pm
ahahahahhahahahahaha
March 13, 2007 at 7:45 am
ahahahahha I can’t stop laughing at all you soon to be busted script kiddies! ahaha
Too bad Big Broly got out of the scene before El came back.
March 13, 2007 at 4:34 pm
Big Broly? You mean my little ‘begger buddy’ broly/g-money? Come back broly I got some pins for you NOT! mouahahhaaha
March 16, 2007 at 11:20 pm
Evry1 figured El to be a snitch since he got outta jail in seattle. Must be pickin up where he left off huh. Why you hang with that worthless piece LC?
March 22, 2007 at 10:47 am
LC hangs with the snicthes cause he is one like them. rats on a sinking ship that will sink them into thier early graves.
April 4, 2007 at 4:50 am
and now? 😀 who on at the end?
April 4, 2007 at 11:24 am
What now, you ask? I’ll tell you what now. Read it and weep. El was beaten down and proven to be an FBI snitch. He confesses and talks about his experience in this Wired article:
“I Was a Cybercrook for the FBI”
http://www.wired.com/politics/onlinerights/news/2007/01/72515
Thats what “now”.
Re-read this whole blog posts after you read the wired article and think about who is who. The truth comes to light.
April 4, 2007 at 6:12 pm
Who is who? And the truth coming to light.
Yes indeed.
One RAT and GIANT SUCKUP on sting site cm is ‘announced’ as ‘busted’ the other week. Yet here he is on this blog and on ccpf virtually every single day 😀 :p
While another RAT tries to pathetically pump people for info on a similar blog and another site.
Both have been around a long long time…
May 25, 2007 at 2:55 am
Man this is so fuckin funny to see El’s faithful LC still trolling the back boards long after it has come to light that he was a BIG PLAYER AND RIGHTvHAND MAN to THE FBI CI HIMSELF!
You were a bitch’s bitch from the word SUCK, and I told you so
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
May 27, 2007 at 8:29 pm
“and I told you so”
And just WHO are YOU who told me so.
Gollumfun – Nah, that RAT is behind bars
Silo – The noted CI and ripper? Maybe
Imperium – The PIG hehe
JimR – The infamous SS PIG and run out of the scene, under that nick and no doubt reassigned cause of his uselessness? Nah
Iceman/Aphex/Easylivin/1000 other nicks – Another noted CI? Could be
Blackrain/DDT/OTF – Yet another noted CI? Probably
Well, whoever YOU ARE, its surely a PIG or a RAT
And since I’ve either banned and deactivated all your accounts and left you to your miserable and increasingly irrelevant sting sites it makes no difference to me 😀 😀 LOL
May 30, 2007 at 7:48 am
This big shit game stinks. its made up mostly of peoplle more worried about the drama and not making money. The one thing you need to do to make money is buy dumps or cvvs and shut da fuck up. But you kids spend 99% of your time online up other peoples asses instead of outside making money. Talking on any board just gets you in trouble when you don’t need to be on board. just signup quick and get vendor’s contact info and go away. But how funny that dm and cm and cz cut off new members so people can no longer signup to get the vendor contacts they need and go away. Now people are forced to stay active in the scene or else there accounts get deactiviated for lack of participation. Nice way to force members to be part of a continuing criminal conspiracy when they don’t need to be.
May 30, 2007 at 7:55 am
And that is what its all about. Snitch Bitches like LC say they dont want new members cuz of many nick scammers.But the truth is he wants to force dm members to stay active in the criminal conspiracy or else there accounts get deactivated. And LC what was up with you being a stealh admin on dm for months and still are? Why not get rid of that respected member title and show what you really are? Why, you gotta hide your power and ability to read members’ pms? Or is it that dm members would leave in big numbers if they knew you were not just a mod but an admin running apeshit all over dm?
May 30, 2007 at 7:41 pm
Funny that ‘stealth admin’ title. I recall being made such by none other than C.I. and depraved ripper Silo on his board Trojan the World, pardon me, ‘cardtheworld’. Still didn’t stop my ass from being banned not even a week later LOL when his handlers decided, perhaps its not such a good idea having LC on the inside. Who knows what he’ll dig up 😀
Yep, who knows what I’ll dig up AND POST next hahahahahhaha
May 31, 2007 at 8:40 am
No secret about Silo being a CI working off his time for the law. They let him earn a living by riping the same people he be getting info on. He’s doing it now on cardingzone.org as access.denied, The law don’t care if ripers get ripped by a CI helping to bust them
Yep, good ol’ Llody, who recently got married and took his girl’s last name LYSKE is working round the clock under house arrest in B.C. I was able to confirm he be under house arrest. So ask yourselves how can a scumbag under house arrest be able to have computers and eqiupment in his house, to run boards and shit 24/7 without the law ever finding this shit? Its because THEY ARE LETTING HIM.
Guess the law didn’t make enough busts off of silo aka access.denieds ctp rip+bust op. So a new round of busts is in the works with cz.org
And for the peeps using his proxy service, you deserve to get bustd for being so dumb.
June 27, 2007 at 5:41 am
Is Lord Cyric still trolling around or did he finally give up like El and admit his roll in The Grifters sting?
June 27, 2007 at 10:53 am
I’m still here!!! You script kiddies didn’t think you could hide for long, did you?
Why all the questions about a non player like El? The REAL questions should be about digital chaos and his LE sting dl op!!
________________________________________
And I STILL KNOW your other nicks!!!
July 1, 2007 at 11:34 pm
EL snitchy is back sniching
He is using pasha’s nick over DM.
EL. good luck Bich. You are going to be owned like you used to be.
July 5, 2007 at 10:16 am
Ask yourself this question “lol”:
How can EL get a nick on DM when it closed registration months ago? Yep, it’s a sting board!! Guess MasterSplynter gave “Pasha”/El a way back in for the NCFTA fags!!!!
July 5, 2007 at 1:21 pm
Yep, reg was closed months back on DM, December 22 to be exact. And, I should know, since it was my idea 🙂
Pity that pasha registered on December 21 (along with 23 other users).
For those who care, of those 24, 13 were deactivated, 5 were banned, and 6 (one of which is pasha) are still registered on the board.
Better luck next time :p
July 6, 2007 at 7:46 pm
Hahah, this fucking site is so fucking strange. Everytime it gets quiet the cops come over and stir it up, just like Cumbajohnny and his SC mafia used to do.
Hey coppers, CM is a fucking sting site run by the likes of the Miami/Ft Lauderdale Secret Service. They have made so many cases off CM it isn’t funny. And to top it off they are now looking to do the same thing at Cardingzone.com. Same pussy LE board with no brains. Same pussy wannabe coppers running it with the likes of AccessDenied and Unauthorized running the show.
Coppers should just shut the fuck up and run their stings, but no, they want action, know why? hell, action makes the world go around, gets people posting, gets them stirred up and posting and chiming in. When its dead, the busts start piling up until no one is left.
Then when its all quiet, they come out and stir the police pot and more people sign on to see what the fuss is about.
What a bunch of lame wannabe cops. God, you fucking cops are about as stupid as an AUSA. You get all riled up with stupid op names called Operation Lord Kiasersose. My god, what a bunch of fucking lamers. And Operation Bot Roast, where you busted like two guys a year ago and just published it now, hailing it as a marked improvment against botnets.
Why don’t you get wise and start shutting the fuck up less someone destroys your little kingdoms eh?
You coppers think your all powerful gods. You know what? Your shit, total shit. It took you guys years to fucking find guys like Dron?? Lord K??
My god man, if that is the best you can do, then better get the fuck out and go back to drugs or something else.
But, you wont, know why? Cause your all mouth and no action. Most don’t even carry a weapon cause no one to use it on in the office cubicle where you post from. Ya know LC, that must hurt them awful bad.
They have all this power action, but can’t use any of it because all they do is run ops like OPERATION LORD KISERSOSE, my god what is that? Lame ass shit.
And lets not talk to much about him either. Lets talk about Scarface, there branded CM slaughterhouse who now has to go to the bighouse for 18 months. I’ll bet he was truly happy he had to do 18 months after helping the SS and FBI forever on CM. Now his payoff is exactly what it would have been had he said FUCK YOU LE. They worked him like a barking dog, then sent him up the river anyway just to say they are effective and punishing people and I’ll say he slaved for them like a slave dog and still got time.
Now it continues with Cardingzone.com. Same bullshit board, different day.
And you got the likes of another power mad asshole like AccessDenied, a guy that comes out of nowhere to run another sting board. Now he says he will do murder to people who mention his board and has even enlisted BadB the ripper dump supplier from Carderplanet days as his aid de camp…
The fucking shit piles up so high you need a fucking ladder to rise above it.
LE is ever present, but they busted everyone in the USA, now what? Nobody left. Got to stir the pot, stir and stir and see what comes out.
Tell ya what shit assholes, You fucking lamer bitches, your all a bunch of faggots.
Go jack off, better yet, tell AccessDenied to get a woman, the fucking little boy refused a free woman offered to him for one hour. He fucking refused it, and they were A list h0’s and he refused it. He is a gay little boy, and is on power drugs to pump up his small dick that LE has shoved up his ass.
Fucking losers.
FUK DA POLICE…Fuck em fast, fuck em hard, fuck em long, fuck em last. Ya, I said it and I’m proud. Do something about it bitches. If not, lay the fuck back.
Time for an all out war now. Mix it up mix it up. Hrmm, thats what ya coppers want, ya want war, nothing left to do but cause drama so you can have another war.
As King once said, you may know its coming but never know from where the wind blows or something to that effect.
July 9, 2007 at 12:13 pm
Ahh, so the infamous scumbag El has returned.
What happened El? Got cut loose by yor SS/NCFTA handlers after your pasha and other nicks got banned? Can’t reduce those check fraud charges out of TX anymore because you can’t rat on people like you admitted to in those WiredNews articles?
Why do you constantly call everyone a pig but it’s your fat, double-chinned, coke-bottled face that publicly admitted to all your shit in those WiredNews articles? Then the SS gets you popped on those old TX charges, and no more college in MN for you. So you pissed you got no way to get off? Like you said no one left in USA to bust, cause rat snitch fucks like you helped to put them all away. US copps busted so many US players they had to start going overseas looking for busts ROFL.
July 9, 2007 at 2:31 pm
Yep, nothing left in the US but PIGS, RATS, postal inspectors, security officers and reporters.
As it stands, LE is running out of ways to trick greedy saps into stepping foot into US. Yes indeed.
Gotten to the point where the US PIGS have had to resort to claiming they reside in places like Hungary and such cause noone in his right mind or who isn’t a ripper is willing to deal with anyone from there.
Ah well
As for going overseas for busts, tough one there. Unless the targets are screwed up idiots they won’t go near drugs, and involve the DEA. Pity Gollumfun is out of the picture as he was so good at enticing these ‘wannabe playas’. Guess it takes a drug fiend to know how to get inside their heads, though, not always, as similar drug fiend, Phil_Lesh has demonstrated with his continued failures. Tsk Tsk
Most countries not named UK or Australia have no interest in doing anything for those ever pushy SS and FBI losers. 9 times out of 10 they’ll happily take the bribe and claim they cannot find this target with about as much credibility as US LE’s claim they “cannot locate Zo0mer” Yes sir, whats you gonna do.
Real tough. Guess there’s nothing better to do than keep sucking in these tinny wannabe minnows off IRC and exaggerate to the moon about how their such BIG BAD Identity theft mobsters hahahaha
July 9, 2007 at 9:47 pm
pasha has been add by LC in DM 🙂
look back his posts in DM all his is doing is attacking vendors, never noticed deal or even discussion about deal with any other vendor,
Just like LC, Router, and other crap DM staff
July 9, 2007 at 9:49 pm
also forgot to notice about this.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/257/RipOff0257845.htm
LOL, any comment heh. bitch 🙂
July 9, 2007 at 10:02 pm
“Same pussy LE board with no brains. Same pussy wannabe coppers running it with the likes of AccessDenied and Unauthorized running the show.”
LOL how fucking stupid you are, don’t tell me that you believe what are you saying!
lol now unauthorized and accessdenied (witch both are dumps vendors) are cops? LOL
never heard about a cop vending dumps! did you ? how fucking stupid you are!
🙂
you must ask you self about DM’s staff who aren’t even dealing vending trading in the scene! ask your self about them positions. what they doing ? why so? lol maybe carding is hobby for them? heh.
😀
July 9, 2007 at 10:04 pm
or snitching is also a hobby for them like LC,
but i think LC is PRO snitch. as he got the good experience since a long wile.
July 10, 2007 at 9:33 am
You know lol and WhoCares, or why don’t we just call you JimR or Phil_lesh or all the other same PIGS running around.
I congratulate you on giving people the biggest laugh of the year with that comically amateurish ‘ripoff’ post hahahaahhaahahhaha
A link I posted 3 full days before your two sting sites did. But then, we all know very well you couldn’t post it first cause then EVERYBODY would have clearly seen it as the laughingly fake that it is. So made sure one of your assets’ contacted me to provide the url.
GAWD you LE are soooooooo lame
Speaking of lame. You can keep AccessDenied, we got tired of his hysterical crying and booted his ass off for good 😀
July 10, 2007 at 4:06 pm
about this
“I congratulate you on giving people the biggest laugh of the year with that comically amateurish ‘ripoff’ post hahahaahhaahahhaha”
to lame answer i even wont answer LOL.
and this:
“GAWD you LE are soooooooo lame”
i seen somone where post about how NCFTA showing somone who hijacked you kiddy EL forum called “DM” (“Dark mother fuckers ? ” heh.) GIVING A FUCKING WHOLE PROOF ABOUT IT! showing also the NCFTA ISP in your server “last” logins
You really must give up LC, all knows about you! the famuse LE, older than EL him self in the scene!
and btw how come you knew about EL and didn’t said so ? heh protecting you college’s ass?
Get fucking shame on your ass bitch.
try to get a life 🙂
EL / snitch
heh
July 10, 2007 at 5:46 pm
Whats the matter morinex/meki and real-biz/vortex, sad that ccpf is down so you can’t rip off anyone there 😛
All the PROOF one is looking for is found from SS’s own RAT Gollumfun admitting in Wired that he was Administrator at sting site cm. Now all the SAME RATS are to be found on stingZone and all the SAME RIPPERS to LOL
Guess you guys are too of a kind 😀
July 10, 2007 at 7:44 pm
LC and El spreading disinformaion again…
will anything change with these pigs?
July 10, 2007 at 10:18 pm
Hey EL. Do you really think anyone cares what you have to say PIG? Your the most stinkin shit ever in the scene. and it is so telling that your PARTNER LC ran to get you to argue along side him.
EL ran THE GRIFTERS FROM FBI COMPUTERS IN A SAFE HOUSE.
EL IS A SINITCH.
ALL THE WHILE THAT EL WAS CALLING SC A COP SITE HE WAS RUNNING FBI COMPUTERS.
LIKE ANYONE IS GOING TO LISTEN TO THIS BUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLSSHIIITTTTT NOW!
You are a cock sucker EL of cops. You and LC are both CIs. You are both well known now for this.
KISS EACH OTHER AND DIE.
July 10, 2007 at 10:19 pm
LC is the NEW EL.
HE IS THE EL OF TODAY.
GARANTEED 1000000000%
July 11, 2007 at 3:24 am
@Whocares shut the fuck up chuck. What are you? Some lamer calling El a bitch and snitch when he fucking been blowing operations weekly for years on your scum sucking asses Cops gave away the farm, El found out all their ops and closed most down when he could. But, guys like you are still around working to bust people and every time El calls a spade something, you cops rush in to cover their asses. Much like Gollumfun who you all covered and vouched for until he was no good no more, then when we said the guy was a fucking rat, you guys were like Oh no, Not Mr Gollumfun, no can’t be him, shut up, no way he is big timer. Yeah right. We called you out Unauthorized because we know who you are and what you are. Your a fucking loser scamming bitch called Checkmate or you suck his pole he or sucks yours. Same MO, been him like I don’t know how long.
@lol, Look AD, you have not been around that long to know that Hummer911 sold dumps for the police. Lets see now, hrmm, cops selling dumps, informants selling dumps, ya, pretty much anyone can sell whatever the police want them too or allow them too. Its called authorization you stupid fucking wannabee poser bitch.
No one else here has any comments worth a damn, same fucking lamer posers wanting to give lame statements day after fucking day. The give away is that after how many have been busted on these boards that you guys still act as if its all some accident that people get busted on them.
Real Vendors are coddled until they give away their true IP, their real email, their real ebay(usually connected to email) and or their real info when getting paid.
Cops pay WU or any other way they can to the vendor until the vendor is busted (See Dron for an analogy)
Then the cops will turn the guy around, make claims he is a good guy now and the guy feels remorse for being bad and helps the cops nail everyone else.
@Whocares, name one guy motherfucker that got busted on the TG op?
You cant, because no one did. Everyone there was allowed to do whatever. Even Decep is still out and about? How come?
JD took himself out and everyone knows that. So, your fucked up shit shows what you are, a poser wanting to cover his own ass. Know how I know what you are unauth? Because you never admit to the problem that people are on boards and they get busted and probably because they were on boards, like Lord Kiasersose. The cops said he was busted for his activities related to boards. See though, you will sidestep the issue using the old Texas Two step where you wont answer any real questions about how many people have been busted by LE sting boards like let me count them
SC
DP
CC/Muzzfuzz
CP
CM
DM
And the list goes on. I leave off TG because no one got busted there. It wasn’t a bust operation you dumb fuck.
But CM is, and so is CZ, know why I know? because they are the same board put up for the same reasons. CM is almost done and they need to close down soon., budgets ya know. CZ takes up where CM left off and its all good.
Look, I don’t give a rats ass about you cops, do what you want. I could care less. I don’t believe in boards anymore, I haven’t for a long time, that’s why I was out shutting them down instead of praising them like you do or GOLLUM did or any of the other losert cop fed rat wannabees like yourself. You never admit that there is a problem because you can’t, because you get paid based upon boards being up, not down, and if they are down, you don’t get paid, so you got to have them up, and guys like LC and me take them down, so that is what is termed COUNTER productive.
Of course you won’t answer that charge either because your a lamer ass poser.
So, go fuck yourself less we put out a contract on your ass and stamp it to every web site in existence making your job impossible to do. How would you like 500000 people asking you for dumps and card to drop services and so forth all trying to locate you, and when they do find out and then LE wont do anything to you eh where does that leave you eh? WE all knew LE knew where Gollum was, they refused to touch him, know why? because he was a rat bastard like you are and AD aka LOL is. You wont last much longer, we have seen to that, eventually you will have to quit and or find something else to do instead of trapping little kids in carding ops while making them feel important.
We do have your number slutbag and watch out, every customer you have could be working for us ya know, one day, just like Gollum, we will have you 🙂 Depend on it, because it will happen. Same with AD. WE be looking for his slut ass now, and hard too 🙂 WE gonna find him, open up his stomach, grab his intestines and SQUEEEZE THE SHIT OUT OF THEM!!!!
Wait and see…
Else, fuck you and your fucking punk as bitch that bore ya.
July 11, 2007 at 12:54 pm
LC can you give details how you did bust your EX admin matrix and JelSI ? LOL
and who is the next on the list ? ChaO maybe ? heh. or is he snitching with ya.
I wonder how the User ID 1 (matrix) left the scene and your forum stills up.
LOL now all is clear same as the SC when was a good forum than owned by SS heh. DM’s turn to get owned by NCFTA!
LOL!
THE GAME IS OVER LC. give UP bitch.
July 11, 2007 at 12:57 pm
@WhatALaugh
“LC is the NEW EL.
HE IS THE EL OF TODAY.
GARANTEED 1000000000%”
No he isn’t the LE of the day.
He is the one of the YEAR. LOL
July 11, 2007 at 2:23 pm
I can tell you all who WON’T be next on the list.
Why, none of you guys, since all of you have been busted long since, and are kissing and ass licking your LE master’s day and night, and barking like little dogs, just like Theeel/killapriest/deadpresident and iceman/scarface/1000 other nicks were doing recently for so many months until they had no more use for these snitch rats and locked them in a cell with BIG BUBBA ahahahahahahhaahahaha
Your turn is coming, and very very soon mouahahahahahhaha
July 11, 2007 at 2:58 pm
Funny how those CM scumbags always talk about DM as its some sting to do with the UK when CM itself is HOSTED in the UK and has been while DM is hosted in the USA by Staminus, where CM used to be hosted prior to going to the UK.
Whois Record for Cardersmarket.com
( Carders Market )
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Website Title: None given.
AboutUs: Wiki article on Cardersmarket.com
SEO Score: 67%
Terms: 130 (Unique: 87, Linked: 3)
Images: 1 (Alt tags missing: 1)
Links: 3 (Internal: 3, Outbound: 0)
Indexed Data
Alexa Trend/Rank: #1,372,379 The lower the rank the better. 4,924,861 ranks over the last three months.
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IP Location United Kingdom – United Kingdom – Poundhost Internet London
Response Code: 200
Seems CM is the UK sting board lol.
Fucking losers.
July 11, 2007 at 8:39 pm
Bobs Your Uncle = el mariachi the self confesed fbi bitch.
dont come here bitch talking shit.
SURE you know cops – YOU SUCKED THERE DICKS AND RAN THERE STINGS!
LC – YOU BITCH I HOPE BUBBA FUCKS REALLY HARD AND SLOOOOOOOOOW
YOU ARE THE BIGGEST SNITCH ALIVE RIGHT NOW AND IT IS VERY WELL KNOWN BITCH.
HOW FUNNY EL STILL TRYING TO PLAY ALL RIGHTUS AND ALL. THE BITCH SOLD OUT EVERYONE!
SOLD OUT HIS SELF!
NOW ALL RIGHTUS AGAIN!
WHAT A DELUSIONAL BITCH FOR THE FBI!
THIS IS THE COPS CALLING EVERYONE ELSE THE COPS!
AND NOTICE HARD BECAUSE IT IS INPORTANT THAT LC BROUGHT EL HERE TO HELP HIM FIGHT OFF THAT SOMEONE IN THE GOV FUCKED UP AND TOLD SOME PETTY VICTIM HE WORKED FOR THEM.
NOW HE WENT AND GOT HIS FED BUD EL TO HELP HIM DO DAMAGE CONTROL.
FUCK YOU EL. YUZ A WANNA BE COP BITCH AND YOU GOT FBI SEMEN IN YOUR BELLY UP TO YOU NECK.
LC HAS THE SAME TO AND NOW HE WANT BIG WORD FBI DICK SUCKER EL TO COME SAVE HIM.
THAT IS PROOF LC IS EL BITCH AND CALL ON DADDY WHO HE WAS SAYING IS A NON PLAYER ABOVE HAHA THAT HE NOW RUN UNDER FOR COVER.
BIRDS OF A FEATHER BITCH.
YOU ARE BOTH CONFIRMED CI. YOU ARE BOTH PATHETIC TO EVEN COME AND TRY TO CALL EVERYONE ELSE COPS.
Bobs Your Uncle = el mariachi = SELF CONFESSED FBI INFORMANT
LC = el mariachi replacement = REPORTED FEDERAL “ASSOCIATE”
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/257/RipOff0257845.htm
http://complaintwire.org/Complaint.aspx/wxy6OYU4_AAjsgjJiOjG9w
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/lord-cyric-and-wwwdarkmarketws-c15517.html
July 11, 2007 at 8:39 pm
QUOTE:
HUGE IDENTITY THEFT SYNDICATE HIDES BEHIND GOVERNMENT
By Josh P, 30 Jun 2007 | Country: United States
I was looking to purchase a laptop computer at wholesale and someone I had spoken to many times in a chat room sent me to someone who calls himself “Lord Cyric” from Canada. “Lord Cyric” assured me that he could get me a great price on a new laptop and ship it to me from Canada. He gave me a choice of 4 different models, each which retailed for around 2500 and offered my choice if I would Western Union 1700 to him in Canada.
I sent the money, and “Lord Cyric” disappeared. I have been hunting for “Lord Cyric” since.
Recently, I discovered that “Lord Cyric” is in truth a ruling member of a huge identity theft syndicate on the internet located at http://www.darkmarket.ws
http://www.darkmarket.ws is a secret fraud board where millions of stolen identities and stolen credit card numbers are sold and bartered on a daily basis. After investigating this enterprise, I have found that I am by no means the ONLY one this band of crooks has ripped off.
International, federal, and state authorities were notified and I was told at the federal level that “Lord Cyric” could not be involved in scamming me because he is some sort of government associate and is restricted from doing such things. They suggested that someone was using the online moniker “Lord Cyric” falsely and used it to rip me off. “Can’t be our guy”, they said, “he is monitored too closely”.
I beg to differ. I know who I sent money to and I know who ripped me off. When I asked the agent if he felt their guy was above a little side dipping, he simply laughed and said he had another call and told me good luck finding who really ripped me off, and have a nice day.
If the federal government is going to sponsor myself and very likely many others being ripped off by one of there “associates” and then claim he could not be involved due to that association then I think something is wrong with the government when it comes to internet fraud. I don’t care WHO he works for – A CROOK IS A CROOK. I do not think it is fair to protect fraudsters and I am appalled that my complaint was dismissed without investigation simply because the crook is on “their team”.
July 11, 2007 at 10:24 pm
Boo Hoo, too late to change the title now. You got the whole scene laughing at you and ya can’t ban them all 😛
Oh, and next time use a spell checker, its condone NOT sponser…amateurs.. LMAO
July 12, 2007 at 11:05 am
Many questions Uncle El won’t answer like
1. Why he allways attack other boards but -never- DM.
2. What about proof of DM hosting in PA? Even Matrix001 admitted to it on cm but tried to make some lame excuse. Guess your boy Matrix a liar too?
3. Why types like LC -never-do business with anyone?
4. If no make money carding, how you make a living to be on the boards day and night? How you pay your bills?
5. El say he friend to carders, then why on WiredNews his double-chinned coke-bottled face say he helped nail tons of carders for the pigs? He not hurt carders, when he say he wants to help them, but he works with cops to do this. but he screams about cops and CIs all day, but he admits on WiredNews to being one! ANd he still here as Uncle Cumsucker acting like he’s only helping carders! hahahahhahahahh
Davey, go back to college in MN and learn that only little kids believe your idiotic lies
And try to stay away from your weakness those milkshakes will screw you over more then getting raped in a TX jail cell.
July 12, 2007 at 1:00 pm
“3. Why types like LC -never-do business with anyone?”
heh yep it s this what was asking for too. have any guess? LOL i do know. all he do is getting deals details trying to escrow.
somone showed me LC’s review for some staff “i can t say witch to do not deface the vendor”
LC was asking dumb cop’s question, lol i call this investigation not a review, from where you get this, how you ship, how you lurned LOL
have a shame on you LC lol
and about this
“4. If no make money carding, how you make a living to be on the boards day and night? How you pay your bills? ”
Don’t you know the answer, heh ? he get payed good from US LE maybe, and possibly free net fees heh.
LC the Canadian COP is being a star on the scene exactly like EL before… but your end will be … more dramatical. lol
July 12, 2007 at 5:57 pm
@ Whocares I’ll show you mine if you show me yours.
(1. Why he allways attack other boards but -never- DM.)
I like underdog boards, ones that don’t capitalize on weakness of little kids who don’t know any better. If you only had some people on your sites that offered ways to get out, I would shut the fuck up forever. Make it fair is all I ask. But cops cant, they trained one way and one way only, unfair.
Counter question: Why is DM hosted on Staminus.net a famed LE friendly hosting site which in fact hosted CM at one time? Why did DM follow CM and vice versa around the hosting table? I say DM has same problems as CM, CZ and rest of US based LE boards. CM is forever hosted by Poundhost in the UK. Why then does CM not answer charges that they themselves pose about DM being a UK sting operation??
(2. What about proof of DM hosting in PA? Even Matrix001 admitted to it on cm but tried to make some lame excuse. Guess your boy Matrix a liar too?)
I don’t know about PA. I know this. DM was Noc4hosts. CM was Valueweb. Then CM went to NOC4hosts while DM went somewhere else. Then CM went to Staminus and DM went to NOC4hosts. I leave out afrooz.net because your not really in Iran and never were. CM leaves Staminus and moves to Uk poundhost and stays there while claiming DM is UK sting board even though CM is now in the UK and its obvious CM is a UK sting board. DM is and has been hosted in the US. DM then moves to Staminus and stays there exactly where CM used to be. Staminus charges up to 3k a month for hosting and protection services. No board makes that to exist unless they are LE approved and paid for.
I say DM, CM, CZ all LE type boards. No question about it. But, WHOCARES?? Why make an issue out of it every day? Makes no never mind anymore, your all outed eventually. Why fight it? Just shut the fuck up, I shut the fuck up, LC shuts the fuck up and we all shut the fuck up together. Its you all that press it day after aggravating day, as if you can’t say enough my name, my past or whatever. Like who gives a fuck about a story I produced myself?
(3. Why types like LC -never-do business with anyone?)
Why does anyone CARE about what LC does? Or for that matter anyone? Only LE wants to know the private business of others. Tell ya what. Go into a black ghetto and ask some guy at a window his business and why you can’t know it and see how long you live ok? This obsession about knowing everyone’s business and getting into their business is much like Gollum, he had to know everyone’s business and if not, he made them tell or banned them. This is same LE tactic and always outs you as LE when you always want to know everyones business, even his. I would say anyone asking someone their business is fucking LE right there, especially if they can’t find out and spread rumors about someone and asking why you can’t know what they do. Go to prison and ask the tier boss his business and see how long you last. That gives you away right fucking there.
Any criminal would know that. Everyone’s business should be their own business and if any one asks it and starts threads about it, then those asking it or starting shit over it are HIGHLY suspect.
(4. If no make money carding, how you make a living to be on the boards day and night? How you pay your bills?)
How you pay your bills? This falls under same as above. Why you care how someone pay his bills? You sound very much like a drug narc. LE always asks why someone rides a bike in a neighborhood of cars. This how you pay your bills is another loaded LE question. Only LE cares why someone is around and has time for something when no money seems to be made at sitting around. You sound like traffic cop on Cops show. I swear you give yourself away Unuath everytime you open your mouth.
(5. El say he friend to carders, then why on WiredNews his double-chinned coke-bottled face say he helped nail tons of carders for the pigs?)
Where does it say this? Also, why obsessed with facial features? You profiler? You have sex issues? You want to suck my balls? You want to be me? or want to lick my asshole out? Common tactic of LE is to always claim they are superior. So, they make fun of anything they can about a person to degrade him. I hear your fat too, but do I care? No.
(Davey, go back to college in MN and learn that only little kids believe your idiotic lies)
You must be cop out of the loop. MN? Never heard of it.
Ok, questions answered. Now, its your turn to answer.
Why CM hosted on Staminus and now at poundhost while DM now hosted on Staminus? Why you protected like Shadowcrew by legit businesses?
Why does a legit hosting company who specializes in DDOS protection protect major fraud sites that victimize the public?
Answer that?
Plus, why do you think I don’t know especially after writing the playbook you now use?
Who’s on first?
Not you.
Also, why did DDT say that CM was best site he was ever on? Especially now that we know that he was OTF and working for ICE agents??? Can you explain why he vouched for CM and then left to prison??
Why did CM protect Gollum on CM???
Why has CM not answered the charges of having Gollum on its site and protecting him after he made it clear in the news and to me personally later on, that CM was in fact a sting site because he was told that by his handlers? How come you cant answer that? Especially after your own informants gave you up?
But, you cant answer these questions because you in fact have no answers for them.
I leave off AD questions because he is a dumb foreigner poser who cant spell, cant write, and basically refuses women which makes him very gay by my standards.
Also AD, Lord Kiasersose was not a part of the DM crew, he was on CM and Maza you fucking idiot.
Warning to LE Whocares. Shut the fuck up and see how we shut the fuck up. Keep it up and you only have yourself to blame for results. Do you really care? No, so keep it coming and we shall too.
July 12, 2007 at 11:33 pm
Fair? Your asking for fair Bobs Your Uncle?
There is no fair, not here on these boards where all are either sting sites or ripper sites, and usually both. Not in this scene where only 1% keep their word and wouldn’t know the word reliable if you beat them with a stick 24/7.
Not in the ‘real world’ where reporters all have agendas and spin fairy tales all the while sucking LE’s dick.
Where financial institutions and their security officers literally train wanna posers how to circumvent their own security so that they can then justify jacking their fees to the sky.
And certainly not LE, who have no morals nor shame, care soley about their promotions and increasing their budget, care less about about Joe Average, fuck literally every one of their RATS and snitches then fuck them with the same sentence they would have received if they had shut their traps and told the PIGS to FUCK OFF. Instead, now have me outting their asses and publicising their info so they have to be segregated in a cage 23/24 hours.
No, there is NO ‘FAIR’. You know that you’ve known that for a very long time, had your face rubbed into it continously, but still you cry out for fairness.
Get over it!
Its screwed or be screwed and nobody is gonna do you any favors nor grant you any salvation no matter how shiny their badge.
Leave these ignorant fools to the fate they are so eager to embrace. They’ll be a new batch of them to sing LE’s tune and then another and another..and I’ll be here to FUCK THEM ALL.
July 13, 2007 at 12:18 am
Take Notice that the self-professed FBI Informant and site admin if the FBI OWNED “The Grifters”, one El Mariachi, and the other TOP DOG ADMIN of THE GRIFTERS, one Lord Cyric, are once again together working to put the scene through another SPIN CYCLE.
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE OUT OF YOUR MIND – AND I MEAN COMPLETELY OUT OF YOUR MIND – TO GIVE ANYTHING THESE TWO SAY ANY WEIGHT.
THEY ARE PROVEN TRAITORS. THEY WERE THE TOP ADMINS OF THE FBI STING SITE “THE GRIFTERS”
WHY DON’T WE TALK ABOUT THE GRIFTERS, EL?
WANNA CLAIM NOW IT WAS “NOT” AN FBI SITE?
DIDN’T GET THE MEDIA COVERAGE YOU THOUGHT YOU WOULD GET?
TAKE NOTICE THAT LC’S LITTLE FAGGOT-MOUTHED AROGANT REPLIES ARE NOW HEADING TOWARDS THE “PHILOSOPHICAL.”
THAT’S BECAUSE DADDY, A KNOWN FBI COLLABORATOR – IS HOME.
EL MARIACHI WILL NEVER GROW UP BECAUSE HIS BRAIN IS NOT CAPABLE OF IT.
HE WILL RETURN FOREVER AND AGAIN TO BOOK EVERYONE.
Right next to “Lord Cyric”
PATHETIC.
July 13, 2007 at 12:21 am
Don’t tell us about CM, EL. No one wants to hear your THEORIES.
Tell us about THE GRIFTERS.
COP.
July 13, 2007 at 8:52 am
Fine, then I’ll tell you about that PROVEN STING SITE cm.
About how GollumRAT was quickly inserted into the STING SITE cardersmarket.
Even well known RATS like Synn are publicly calling it that, which is why its ‘dead board walking’ hahahahahaha
And how the EXACT SAME NICKS are running STING SITE cz.
If your so interested in TG, pre September 04, you know, BEFORE El was ‘cut loose’ why not contact Decepgal (she’s STILL an LE asset) and Namelessface. The other TOP Administrators at the time.
Funny how you COPS NEVER mention them. Why, you don’t even WANT TO mention the last Administrator at the time. A certain SS RAT named JD. Still lamely ‘working’ on sting sites cm and cz with his handler unauthorized.
Same old shit…
July 13, 2007 at 10:48 am
LC don’t turn this shit around on victims and make them suffer a second time.
Other snitches who knew what LE was up to with El even said their handlers told them that Decepgal was setup by El at the time he was supposedly busted during the Bigbuyer connected bust.
Why El only come on this blog after the pasha nick exposed? Not many boards running right now and can’t be on them.
So after El can’t do work for his LE handlers anymore, he knows he’s screwed cause he can’t rat anyone out to reduce those TX check fraud charges. So like he did in the old days, his ego goes into overload with rage and he comes on this blog to stir shit up.
El ain’t it said that the only way for you to stir shit up is on a blog? Look how far you’ve fallen as an FBI asset? They not only won’t budget a board for you to run to trap people, but you can’t even stay on the boards as a no name. You have to stir shit up on a blog.
No more ratting to get out of jail. You will face the consequences of your actions for a change when you go to prison. I hope you like dick.
July 13, 2007 at 10:54 am
I’m spending far too much time on this blog with you cops, rippers and script kiddies.
I see that asset OTF left ANOTHER MESSAGE just a few mintues ago.
Why don’t pigs like you go after the mega-ripper and operator of CZ? Oh, that’s right, AD is SILO.
July 13, 2007 at 11:07 am
AD is Silo mmmmmmppppphhhhh
C’mon, if your gonna use my nick at least come up with something credible.
AccessDenied is a bigger wannabe lamer than even Checkmate 😀
Its a wonder he can walk and chew gum at the same time 😛
I think even Dragon had more on the ball then this retard.
Ah, but I guess someone has got to be the fall guy. He’ll find out how his ‘friends’ treat him at the end just like Dron did.
Couldn’t happen to a stupider kid.
July 13, 2007 at 7:00 pm
lol is AD Canadian ? heh as fare as i know he isn’t lol and also as i knew your “SILO” is Canadian just like you, the difference is:
SILO = Ripper
LC = Snitchy ladyboy
July 13, 2007 at 7:09 pm
The stir of ECHOes shall soon engulf all of you scamming fucks.
You speak of balls? Come to Miami and say that shit to my face you filthy Russian thieves.
July 13, 2007 at 9:50 pm
As usual, Whocares won’t answer questions. See, told ya so. Not one question answered. I answered your questions whocares, but, your too chicken shit to answer mine because you cant. You fucking poser cop.
This blog is boring, it has no true interest in it other than two groups going head to head. One group says there is no stings, no boards around that are run by LE, despite every vendor of rate being busted in the last 14 months. The other side says there all stings and to watch out.
Who’s right?
Its easy to see, LE has busted thousands, and those are facts, and all those guys were busted doing business on boards, lately in the Miami area where everyone knows that CM operated out of.
Crisis, aka Hunter Moore, now as Vortex on the new sting board CZ has been installed as the next guy to bust everyone.
As for being on boards or wanting top whocares, I told ya, its all hobby for me now. And get real, Texas is over with you dumb cop, paid that off a long time ago with 20k, as the victim was already dead. So, long live your bullshit because I’m done with this kiddie shit.
You cops go ahead on.. Have fun pokey and gumby…
You will need it.
LC, I reco we leave this shit blog behind because its all cops defending their right to bust people. No one reads it but us and cops. They of course have to win because as they say, stings dont exist, boards are not run by LE, despite the fact that every board out there has been a sting so far. Yeah, can’t happen again eh? Naaaa
Eventually they will run out of people to bust, when that happens what they gonna do then??? Sit at their desks surfing pr0n sites looking at kiddie pr0n secretly jacking off to it as Gollum said they liked to do.
Cops, I shit em….
July 14, 2007 at 5:54 am
Oh, more death threats please from small boy who sits behind screen and acts like big dog in woods. ROTFLMAO. You are a laugh loser, you can’t even threaten someone properly. All you are is a gutless wonder who sits behind a computer and hurls insults and death threats and can’t back up anything you say. I dare ya to try and carry them out. Come on big stuff, act as if you are a mafia don, if not shut the fuck up and sit down ya wanker. You aint shit but a punk ass trick. You got nothing but pussy where your nut sack should be. And the worst part of it is that you know your gay, typing behind your screen, saying all those mean things meant to scare people. Oooooo, so worried about you gay boy.
Go jerk the monkey of that police agent behind you staring at your sweet ass :)He wants you..You want him, go for it.
July 16, 2007 at 9:09 am
El why are you causing more drama that is fucking up my investigations? You and cumba helped me alot bust that ring recently in Miamai, but now you’ve flipped because you got busted out of the boards and can’t rat to save your ass on those TX check fraud charges. Oh well, I’ll see you soon. Pack a lunch and some lube.
July 16, 2007 at 2:39 pm
LC the cop of the year
July 16, 2007 at 2:45 pm
Bobs Your Uncle = el mariachi = SELF CONFESSED FBI INFORMANT
LC = el mariachi replacement = REPORTED FEDERAL “ASSOCIATE”
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/257/RipOff0257845.htm
http://complaintwire.org/Complaint.aspx/wxy6OYU4_AAjsgjJiOjG9w
hehe
Bobs Your Uncle so was you pasha ? i wonder how fucking jaluse you was in DM about CM and CZ. i understand now.
fuck off EL snitchy. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Game over
LC have shame on you bich. a Snitch and ripper?? LOL what fucking funy you are LOL
July 17, 2007 at 10:48 am
AcessDenied is right! When el and LC got exposed and banned every where but DM they ran to the last place they could to stir up trouble;
A FUCKING BLOG lolo
July 17, 2007 at 1:11 pm
This sting blog is funny as hell!! You all don’t think that Afterlife is cooperating with police by giving them all your isp info when you leave messages here?
July 18, 2007 at 4:40 am
Hey lemonheadache
When there is a place where EL and LC are posting, there is police as a job function. Do you not look after your assets? Dont be so stupid in the obvious.
LC BROUGHT EL IN TO HELP HIM. EL IS KNOWN ASSET. LC IS ACCUSSED ASSET. WHY WOULD ACCUSSED ASSET RELY ON KNOWN AND CONFESSED ASSET FOR HELP? BECAUSE HE IS ASSET TO. BECAUSE HE TURN TO FRIEND WHO ALSO IS ASSEST FOR HELP.
DO MATH LEMONBRAIN!
July 18, 2007 at 11:39 am
I think it boils down to these carding people here trying to defend their right to be left alone and not accused of being the police. What is funny or strange is that they advertise themselves as if the police do not matter or are not around. Also, why would any of these web sites stay up in the face of all the police on their sites?
It is almost as if they don’t care, like they allow police around, knowing as its been reported that police make their cases on these boards, yet, these guys stay up without ever going down. Who is responsible for that? Certainly not these so called carders, because it is quite obvious that they said the same things when that other police site was up called Shadow something or other.
At any rate, it seems these carders on this site will do anything or say anything to keep people from thinking that they could be the police. One would think they would say hey I am not but there is allot of them about so lets not stir them up or cause trouble. But they refrain from saying any of this which is obvious they have something to cover up.
Just an opinion, I don’t want to get flamed for it, but it seems strange that these sites are so blatant and out there as if no one can touch them which we all know is not truly how it is. The police could shutter them at anytime, the real question is why they don’t, which gives it away right there. They have many ongoing investigations and it seems these two LCEL people are just trying to make people aware that its probably the police. I am sure they are wrong on some points in this too long thread, but they seem to have a decent debate here and there which has gone completely unanswered by the opposition they rant about. That is another give away in that the opposition refuse to answer the questions posed to them.
In the early parts of this blog, they said they were not a criminal web site, and the LCEL people refuted that by showing that they were in fact lying. So, if they lied about that what else would they lie about?
In debates one learns to see through the lies and see whatever truth one can get from it. In this long blog, it seems that the opposing force to those two guys are refusing to really answer anything about their sites, and have tried to put it back on these two guys to answer about their site which is long gone.
It would also seem that these LCEL guys may know what was going on by their involvmenet or their knowledge about how these web sites are run, and then trying to let everyone else know what they know. Maybe they had a falling out with the police and now are trying to warn people what they found out which seems logical, and the police are doing their level best from letting that information get out by countering with enough noise to deflect opinions.
I do think this thread or blog has died out and anything of value in it is over, which makes someone wonder why it continues as the value in it has ended and all that is left is the childish banter back and forth between two equally childish sides of the debate.
02 cents worth and a bit more.
Thank you.
July 19, 2007 at 12:59 pm
Awww, El created a new nick!
July 20, 2007 at 3:06 pm
“I Was a Cybercrook for the FBI”
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,72515-0.html
What I love most about all this is the simple FACTS
FACT #1. El Mariachi aka David Thomas ADMITTED PUBLICLY IN THE WIRED NEWS ARTICLE that he was an FBI snitch and that TheGrifters was a sting. He gave specific examples of how he read private PM about crimes and GAVE THOSE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. It is all in the article. Yes this fat sack of shit has no shame at all.
THIS IS A FACT. GO READ THE ARTICLE!
FACT #2. Before iceman’s retirement, he HACKED AND WIPED OUT TheGrifters sting board! He took El and humiliated him and slapped his punk ass to the floor! In response El made a spoof website cm.org where he wrote bullshit messages and finally in the end wrote a confession of defeat.
THIS IS A FACT. GO SEE DEFACEMENT MIRRORS.
..
Now.
Given these facts, look at the insane rantings of this piece of shit.
David Renshaw Thomas
aka El Mariachi
aka Earl
aka Joe Bob Earl
aka Bobs Your Uncle
Look at the things he will drone on about over and over and over.
LOOK AT THE SOURCE. LOOK AT WHO HE IS. A disgustingly fat lonely pathetic little sniveling bitch, a wannabe gangster who was so AFRAID of going to jail and having his pudgcicle pounded that he rolled over on the Russians, begging for a FED he could rat to, almost immediately. His “friends” are fellow informants or agents, or reporters.
Before you read even a single word from this pathological fucking idiot, consider the source, and read this article.
All about David Thomas, the jackass who is posting above as Earl, as Bobs your uncle. Here he is laying it out and ratting even on himself. He’s such a fucking narc he couldn’t even keep from exposing *HIMSELF* as the rat snitch punk he is. He had to narc himself out to the media! AWESOME HUH. WHAT A WINNER.
“I Was a Cybercrook for the FBI”
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,72515-0.html
“I Was a Cybercrook for the FBI”
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,72515-0.html
El, you stupid lump of shit. CM was NEVER in any way affiliated with LE. You targeted the wrong board you fat slimey FUCK. YOU WERE WRONG. But you are so small minded and pathetic you would never see the facts that were smashing you in that fat ugly nose of yours.
You say CM was run by cops, but yet they HACKED YOU? And vend illegal product? You have accused the guys running CM of being .. let us count.. magcuyver, dev, imperium, ethics, .. shit who else? Whatever boogyman you can pull out of your ass, you accuse. What a fucking dipshit.
Didn’t occur to you that you were wrong from the start did it you fudgefuck.
OH
and all this shit about WHERE a site is hosted.. AHHAHAHHAHAHA LOL
1. THEGRIFTERS, site run by EL (Earl, Bobsyouruncle) was ALWAYS HOSTED 100% IN THE USA !!!!!!! pot ketttle black, you idiot.
2. DARKMARKET, site run by NCFTA/FBI always hosted 100% in the USA!! yet a long time favorite of El, El never attacked it even once.. and it is the home of LC, El’s laptop. LC IS ONLY ON DARKMARKET STING SITE. ONLY BOARD THAT COP CAN BE ON.
Hosting location doesn’t even matter if its encrypted BUT EVEN IF IT DID you gloss over and ignore that TG and DM are USA !!!
You are such a hypocritical fat saggy bitch David.
You said you were retired. Now actually DO IT. Just slink the fuck away back into the few remaining days you have of your miserable lonely life.
“I Was a Cybercrook for the FBI” – EL MARIACHI
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,72515-0.html
“I Was a Cybercrook for the FBI” – DAVID THOMAS
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,72515-0.html
“I Was a Cybercrook for the FBI” – EARL
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,72515-0.html
“I Was a Cybercrook for the FBI” – BOBS YOUR UNCLE
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,72515-0.html
July 21, 2007 at 9:25 am
PLEASE.
EL (“WOW”) YOU CONFESED TO THE NATIONAL MEDIA, BIATCH!
YOU CAN’T TAKE THAT BACK!
AND YOU CAN’T SAVE YOUR PARTNER LC WHO HAS NOW BEEN EXPOSED DUE TO A FEDERAL GOOF.
YOU ARE BOTH COPS.
YOU HAVE BOTH BEEN COPS FROM THE NEAR START.
YOU ARE BOTH LAMERS WHO JUMPED SHIP EARLY AND NOW HAVE YOUR INEVITABLE “IM A COP SO YOU CANT OUT-TALK ME” SMART MOUTHS.
YOU ARE BOTH BUSTED.
AGAIN!
July 21, 2007 at 9:30 am
LC AND DM ON GOOGLE
41 PAGES OF LE OPERATIVE.
YOU WANNA KEEP SAYING ITS A LIE?
BULLSHIT!
LC WAS YOUR CO-ADMIN EL. YOU CONFESSED.
YOU CONFESSED THAT “THE TWO OF YOU” WERE RUNNING A FBI SITE.
BUT NOW HE’S CLEAN RIGHT?
YA – RIGHT!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
July 21, 2007 at 9:31 am
I forgot the punch line ->
“WOW!”
LOLOLOLOL
July 25, 2007 at 1:11 am
hahaha you said it clean and simple just like it is, “HeyWOWeatMEAT”.
El Mariachi is a delusional insidious fat fuck. Lord Cyric is outed as all hell, harbored by the SINGULAR ONE AND ONLY forum that he can be a member of because it is run by the NCFTA/FBI, namely DarkMarket. LOL
Absolutely fucking pathetic!
Feds, your game is up. face it and move the fuck on. *WE* *KNOW*
July 25, 2007 at 3:21 pm
Who said they were coming to get me in Pittsburgh? I’m waiting.
July 25, 2007 at 7:13 pm
Access Denied is Silo. No denying it.
Hmmmm…..AD comes on the scene and all of sudden starts a new board and has it running smooth. Now, nobody just comes on the scene and starts running a board. So this makes me think that AD had had practice running a board in the past. You don’t just come out of nowhere and start running a board.
Silo is the master of assuming multiple identities and writing in different styles, so let’s not get fooled by AD’s apparent lack of English. I’ve seen Silo pretend to be Russian and type English into a Russian translator then retranslate so the English sounds broken.
Now we all know Silo has had great experience running boards, CTP, VIP, LaCostra….??? Shit Silo has founded have the forums in history.
Silo also sold dumps on his boards…. AD is selling dumps on CZ.
AD also has a temper, short fuse, and is too emotional. He can’t take any criticism. Silo was the same. AD bans anyone who disagrees with him just like Silo did on CTP.
And another thing…..AD is selling Proxies, Silo had his Carder IM.
This just another way for Silo to see what people are doing????
AD’s other admin is v0rtex. The v0rtex from CCPF was busted in Brazil so he is either a snitch or a newbie to the scene? If he’s not the snitch then he’s just another made up nickname like dystopia was on CTP.
CardingZone is another CardThePlanet, LCN, VIPCarders, etc….
Get ready for the ripping…..
July 26, 2007 at 12:33 pm
More lies from El’s mouth. Guess his handlers recently rattled his cage to make him post on WordPress again. Is this the only way you can post your crap for people to read since you now banned from boards? LordCocksucker can’t do tthe job for you since DM is only board he is still on. LE is getting desparate! Only people who make boards to harm people are LE! Look at the ncfta sting board DM as proof! Guys who used DM as home/main board like Dron and LordKaisersose found that out the hard way!
July 26, 2007 at 1:04 pm
Hey,TRUTH WARRIOR,Dron was banned from DM long before and as for LordKeiserose he was main at mazafaka not DM.You’re talking shit
July 26, 2007 at 5:48 pm
1. THEGRIFTERS, site run by EL (Earl, Bobsyouruncle) was ALWAYS HOSTED 100% IN THE USA !!!!!!! pot ketttle black, you idiot.
2. DARKMARKET, site run by NCFTA/FBI always hosted 100% in the USA!!
Cardersmarket hosted in USA from the start. Moved to the UK at POUNDHOST.COM only after we forced you to move, and has been there ever since. Explain that eh? UK/USA same thing. You can’t hide behind it bitch. Your an LE site and you know it. Give it up.
You said you were retired. Now actually DO IT.
Why don’t ya make me?
Come on, make me…
Can’t eh? Too bad.
CM was NEVER in any way affiliated with LE. You targeted the wrong board you fat slimey FUCK. YOU WERE WRONG.
Thats what Cumba said about Shadowcrew. But I was right eh?
And I am right about you too. It will all come out in the wash eventually. You know it and I know it.
You say CM was run by cops, but yet they HACKED YOU? And vend illegal product?
So did COPS on Shadowcrew, or did you miss that for some reason??? They dealt illegal products, kept people going, ran drops, did reviews, scammed people, sold drugs, then busted everyone. You are the same site as them. You advertise too much, have to much invested, have to much exposure not to be the police. ONLY THE POLICE CAN RUN A BOARD AND NOT BE DOWNED.
Of course you taught that lesson on SC when we was hosing your ass with AT&T. Now its Poundhost.com.
How many people believe that you are not SC reborn? Everyone knows it, they can smell your bacon.
I don’t care, I know what you are and how much you have to defend yourself. I don’t have to defend my actions, I made you what you were. I gave you what you have. It was me that gave you birth and me that is going to end you, one way or the other. You go OUT the door feet first punk bitch.
Tell ya what Mr LE Carder. You want to do something or show how true crime you are? Just show yourself, you cant because your a lame ass wannabe cop who has no other reason for life except to bust people and defend your sting site from all comers. Only fools would trade on those boards, only fools who think its all some crime empire hosted by an upstanding host who claims he KNOWS EVERY CUSTOMER. Don’t believe me? Look on his web site at poundhost.com at the bottom of the page http://www.poundhost.com/about.php
It says and I quote:
At PoundHost no-one is a ‘number’, everyone is a personally known and valued customer.
So, how you going to defend that eh copper? You going to say that Matthew at poundhost.com is going to host a site that fucks everyone in the world out of their money?? You going to say he don’t know you? You going to say he would just LET you run your crime empire unscathed on his network?
Just like Shadowcrew, same arguments, I can even pull them up if you want and quote you. The same exact arguments came from Imperium about IAACA, always saying PATHETIC and so forth when talking about El. Always calling El every name in the book, always SAYING THAT SAME LINE, ALL FROM IMPERIUM, FED WORKER EXTRAORDINAIRE.
What did they do? Send you to Florida? Or are you still in Boston?
CM, CZ I shit em….
July 27, 2007 at 12:24 pm
Wow. looks like LE fed some tips to El’s fat mouth and gave him another one of his ranting speeches to lay out for all to read. Its another “All boards are LE owned and operated EXCEPT for DM, and I still refuse to mention DM in anyway regardless of it being hosted by the Ncfta office in PA”
He brings out the usual old exposed nicks from years past like gollum, cumba, imperium, and more in an attempt to scare everyone that all the old carder Jedi masters are still around and all powerful, but now working for the other team (LE).
And if you say that Cm and CZ are LE sting boards that are just waiting to bust everyone, then how come USSS and FBI are actively AND PUBLICLY arresting big name vendors like Dron and lordkaisersose to this day? DOesn’t seem like they are building cases against all the “big names” before they decide to bust everyone like they did on SC. Looks like LE is just picking off the vendors they can get their hands on every once in a while.
Ask yourself El: Why would LE keep busting the bigger names in the carding world and do so publicly, but then decide to spend millions and tons of manpower and billable hours running a carding site to bust the “little fish”?
July 28, 2007 at 6:12 am
Looks USSS and FBI jealous each other as usual. Thats only reason of fights.
July 28, 2007 at 7:22 am
I think the reality is they are busting the big names and doing so on Carding sites. Little fish get took too depending on who wants them aka Operation Rollinmg Stone, which to me was a huge small fish round up. Those big vendors were on boards, everyone knows that. So I am not sure of your questions. As for DM, I think everyone has a problem, yes, why not run them all? Staminus, which CM was on at one time, is now hosting DM. How come big name hosts allow it? Can’t say because I am not in that scene but very suspicious for sure.
Its best to be careful everywhere one goes. Somewhat good post by the way, bout time you started asking questions properly and leaving off the bullshit. Or maybe it was because you finally ran out of shit to respond with. The poundhost issue is something you just cant escape from. I know, hosting is a bitch, which is why you get a T3 and host it yourself. But then your spending 6k a month on hosting.
I think everyone should just try and look for other work, but its my opinion only.
@Mossad, yes, I think its true, and always has been true, that inter agency rivalry has always been the case. They fight each other. I also know that these fights keep everyone off balance because they always want people to be that way. They never want anyone to get comfortable and start planning and mobilizing. Keeping everyone guessing, and boards up and down all the time, always keeps people wondering and off balance.
Good posts..Too bad we can’t all talk rationally. But then LE was never rational and would never get caught dead acting that way. To them its all about control and controlling everyone in their scene. Another giveaway. The scene was never about that, it was always about information sharing no matter what it was. But then you never were around way back then when it was like that. Guys back then like InsuranceAdjuster and Nigel and Phantom were guys that always debated what was real and what was bullshit. The debates were very interesting. Today, LE rulez it and shows it with all their we run the show mentality, and we own the scene, and we cant be stopped, and we are the best, and we cant be muscled, and we can take anything.
They give themselves away. So many tells. I know people see them, those that don’t only find out when jailed.
July 28, 2007 at 7:38 am
And as for big names being around. Yes, where else will they go when released? They have huge fines or restitution to pay, no jobs available, nothing they can do. So, they have to come back. They have no choice. As for them being outted, it was us who outted them and you know it.
Gollum admitted in his jailhouse interview that he was an admin on CM. How do you explain that? Big time informant an admin on CM?? I know for a fact that Iceman protected him and said to me that he would not allow me to know who he was on CM nor would he allow me to engage him for his past misdeeds. CM covered him, you cant deny it.
Granted, everyone has their little problems, we are only here to point them out. Why fight it? Why not see the problems we see and say thanks for pointing that out and then go and correct them?
You guys don’t want to think that guys like us who point problems out to you are guys that are in effect showing you your holes.
But, more to the point, I think you know that you are had, and that there isn’t much you can say or do. It is a tough game, I know it more than anyone. I don’t envy you one bit the tasks you have to go through each and every day to maintain your shit. It must be even more hard to have to be the one who has to come here and defend it every freakin day too. Anyway, if you want, we can just end iot here. You can take your usual last words and then we can call it square. Its old, its too old to continue it. I know what you say and you know what I say, so why go on?
July 29, 2007 at 2:26 am
The above couple posts were DISINFORMATION from an FBI snitch, David Renshaw Thomas. He publicly confessed and even posed for pictures showing how proud he is to be working for the FBI.
You can read his confession in the detailed series of articles “I Was a Cybercrook for the FBI” – EL MARIACHI, at http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,72515-0.html
After you read the article look through the carding scene at which of the players support and talk good about El Mariachi aka David Thomas. Realize they are outing themselves as fellow law enforcement informants. Fellow snitches like Lord Cyric who back El even after he admits working for the FBI! Let it sink in.
Re-read his posts above now that you see for a FACT that he is a long time SNITCH and informant for the FBI. Now do you see his motives?
Read the article to see it in his own words.
What a sad situation. What his son Andy must think of daddy.. how disappointed and ashamed he must feel that daddy was punked out like a weak little bitch, instead of standing up like a man and doing his time.
July 30, 2007 at 8:26 pm
I am back to lure all of you to my new website – LNC, I mean VIP, I mean CTP, I mean CZ. I want all carders to look up to me. Fuck DM, CM, and other boards.
I will fuck all of you by scamming you and then selling you out to the FEDS.
When you go to trial I will be smiling since I stole your money and the FEDS paid me for your information.
You are all dumb fucks.
This message was brought to you by the spread your cheeks and bend over campaign – 08′.
July 31, 2007 at 12:35 am
what a deal, man. EL Snitcho has a faggot son who is disapointed in his daddy and girls with kids that aren’t wed. No wonder his boy went gay.
August 1, 2007 at 7:27 am
Afterlife is actively reading this thread! He deleted a post in under two hours I made yesterday. It went in response to bubbalips post(which is the truth and LE had Afterlife silence it cause they are working with EL, so they are doing him a favor and covering for his kids):
Yeah I heard about the girls. One has two kids, the first was a chocalate cornye baby and the second is white. I guess she proved wrong the old saying ONCE YOU GO BLACK YOU WILL NEVER GO BACK!!! bawawawawa
August 1, 2007 at 4:11 pm
Look, I don’t care what you say about each other but please keep it clean. That’s all I ask.
August 2, 2007 at 8:52 am
Whatever you say Quasimoto…excuse me…afterlife, say.
August 6, 2007 at 3:08 pm
I guess nobody cares anymore?
August 30, 2007 at 12:51 pm
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September 1, 2007 at 10:27 pm
So this is where LE and its stooges vent their rival hatred. Quite sad the scene has come down to this.
Well its clear CM was a sting site from the beginning and given the lack of explanation or intelligent response from their mods or admin. I guess it still is. Or will, when it comes back up with a new admin.
So as far as DM goes. I take LCs lack of response to ELs “their all sting sites” to be a subtle confirmation.
By The Way: LC you are right about how CM has vendors that stay for less than 3 months total. Then poof.
CZ.org: Verified drops! Are people this naive? Isnt it IAACA that pushed for verified everything.
And about the socks service which again LC called out long ago on ccpf. Which isn’t a far cry from an IM Service or the VPN service. Heres what should put that issue to rest:
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Doesn’t really matter if they are set up by feds as long as you are using proper protection before the proxy. You should never card something and only use one proxy (especially if it is from a public proxy site).
In addition to that, most public proxies are really slow and hard to work with. I would recommend purchasing an account at a site like Access Denied’s. Great service, great price, and thousands of proxies to choose from.
Just like a politician starting off by telling two truths followed by the “obvious” solution. Too bad that trojaned program doesnt allow you to chain proxies. Instead it immediately hijacks your connection and phones home.
Let me repeat the giveaway for you slower folks:
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So whats left? TC
September 12, 2007 at 12:18 am
The Iceman goeth:
Internet ID crook, ‘Iceman,’ indicted
Max Ray Butler could serve 40-year term for mass identity theft.
PITTSBURGH – A man who used the Internet alias “Iceman” stole credit card and identity information from tens of thousands of people by hacking into the computers of financial institutions and credit card processing centers, federal authorities said Tuesday.
Max Ray Butler, 35, of San Francisco, was indicted by a federal grand jury in Pittsburgh on three counts of wire fraud and two counts of transferring stolen identity information. He could face up to 40 years in prison and a $1.5 million fine if convicted on all charges.
Butler was charged in Pittsburgh because he sold more than 100 credit card numbers and related information to a Pennsylvanian who is cooperating with the investigation, said Margaret Philbin, spokeswoman for U.S. Attorney Mary Beth Buchanan of Pittsburgh.
Authorities said Butler also operated a Web site that served as an online forum for people who steal, share or use others’ credit card information illegally in a practice is known as “carding.”
Federal court records do not list an attorney for Butler, who was arrested in California on Sept. 5 on a criminal complaint filed under seal in Pittsburgh.
Butler remains in federal custody in California. It was not immediately clear when he would return to Pittsburgh to face the charges. A detention hearing is scheduled for Monday in San Francisco.
The indictment charges Butler with e-mailing people about buying stolen card numbers and selling them for several hundred dollars per batch.
According to the criminal complaint unsealed Tuesday, one person told investigators he received “tens of thousands of cards” from Butler. In the affidavit, federal agents said Butler used the aliases “Iceman,” “Aphex,” “Darkest” and “Digits” on his Internet forum, in e-mails with other carders or when hacking into financial institutions.
Witnesses told agents they were present as Butler moved to various hotel rooms where he would use a high-powered antenna to intercept wireless communications. From there he allegedly hacked into financial institutions and credit card processing centers to obtain confidential card information.
One witness told agents that Butler hacked into the Pentagon Federal Credit Union, Citibank and a government employee’s computer.
Philbin could not immediately say which kinds of credit card numbers were sold or whether authorities planned to alert cardholders of potential problems.
One witness told agents that Butler hacked into the Pentagon Federal Credit Union, Citibank and a government employee’s computer.
Philbin could not immediately say which kinds of credit card numbers were sold or whether authorities planned to alert cardholders of potential problems.
Associated Press
By Joe Mandak
Updated: 5:43 p.m. ET Sept 11, 2007
So what’s El Mariachi, JD and Lord C up to lately? Jesus, are there any more decent boards?
September 12, 2007 at 11:43 am
The answer to the last qeustion is answered when you answer where is khameleon,nxcvi and blackrain?
September 12, 2007 at 7:15 pm
Hey, they took the name Carders Market out of the above article! The name of the forum was specifically mentioned in the article. I guess they still want to use it to hammer people.
September 15, 2007 at 4:58 am
[…] has been having with David Thomas (aka El Mariachi) of TheGrifters.net then read these posts, here and […]
September 15, 2007 at 8:03 am
I laugh at you PCI geeks! You think that the game is over? bawawawwa
The carders regrouped after 10/28 and will do so again. no matter how bad american police make things bad for american carders, the main carders the Russian will always keep it going. They love dealing with americans for partnerships and selling them data. Russians are 75% of world carding game.
And you think it all over cause CM “decapatated”? bawawaa
I guess you are one of those who think DM is a sting board. And me guess you never heard of CZ or Mazafacka. Anyone carder can post up a carding board template and get it going in a couple of days. They will regroup, stronger and smarter then ever like you saw after 10/28
I wish I wassmart carder so I could make big american bucks. I hate my job and want to leave it.
September 15, 2007 at 10:07 pm
Russians are the best and put us Americans to shame with their knowledge and professionalism. They don’t need us, but we sure need them. CL was great, as was SC for quite a while, but now all the American boards have are rippers, cops, rats and petty arguments. Too bad.
September 19, 2007 at 3:30 am
Hello Decep. Thought you had retired eh? Being in Florida still nice for you eh?
Better slither back in the shadows lest that bankruptcy fraud you filed comes back to bite you in your ass.
Best to get back under cover, your 5 years out of the limelight is not up yet.
Might we all benefit from looking at your case files and seeing just how you got away with countless provable crimes all with reciepts attached to them?
Decep oh Decep, better get your big tits and fat hairy cunt back under your blankets lest you end up another fat stat.
Mind those words Double 46DDD cup. Your ass is still not clear. And even if it was clear you can still be found and dealt with while getting pink handcuffs around your fat hands.
Decep oh Decep, where art though oh Decep..Let me start looking……..
September 19, 2007 at 11:53 am
Nobody loved ending their sentences with that arragont, English profesor wannabe “eh?” like LC. And El to some degree. And all know it was El who rolled on Decepgal when she got busted in the BigBuyer pickup at that office suite years back.
LC is cop and Mariachie work together with him. That explain why the arrogant cop like attitude in the style and arrogant attitude this fake decepgal wrote this post.
Speaking of Florida how is Texas el?
February 28, 2008 at 10:26 am
What did happen to mazafaka? DigitalChaos looks like a fed.
March 12, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Former Manhattan prosecutor who started ID THEFT UNIT- worked with federal and state law enforcement. Now donig state and federal defense in credit card related fraud. Tilem and Campbell (tilemandcampbell) – ask for Jeremy
June 29, 2008 at 8:39 pm
[…] Grifters. Iceman and ElMariachi disliked each other in ways never imagined. (You can read their banter back and forth in the comments section here. You can read even more about this via a compilation of news […]
September 26, 2008 at 10:44 pm
Lord Cyric = Pig, Cop, Rat, Snitch, you have your nose so far up Els fat rat ass. Admit it, You, JohnDillinger, Decepgal, have been among the worst whiny rat bitches from day one. El Mariachi David R. Thomas BEGGED to be a snitch, he BEGGED them to run a sting board, and you jumped on board no questions asked. Hello PIG!
The rats are exposed:
El Mariachi
Decepgal
John Dillinger
Cumbajohhny
Crisis
Lord Cyric
Gollumfun.
So now you see what sort of company you belong to.
FYI: “carding forums” dont even come close to being the “scene” you are so fond of snitching on, they are and have always been the domain of kiddies begging for leftovers from the true, and anonymous, masters.
I’m sure that El Snitchy, having read a blog post or news item, will now be onboard passing it off as his “expert” opinion.
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November 6, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Lord Cyric has been exposed as none other than Washington Times reporter Brian Krebs.
If you want anything close to the truth, take everything LC, aka Brian Krebs, has ever said and flip it around and turn it upside down.
Hey Brian, how does taking the law into your own hands, and committing felonies while aiding and abetting the criminal underground in pursuit of a story sit with the authorities?
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